<p>stambliark: if youre going to ask for advice, you should take it in stride.</p>
<p>and by the way, i raised over $45,000 for my class, and over $10,000 for charities (e.g. the united way, unicef, red cross, american lung association)</p>
<p>and i never once mentioned it in my application. i dont think that portrays leadership abilities. i think it shows you just know how to organize a few fundraisers.</p>
<p>-aj</p>
<p>I would like to apologize stambliark41, it was a joke. I mean, perfection is subjective and it's hard for me to comment about why you were rejected because to me, your stats seem pretty perfect.</p>
<p>Stam... my guess is that judging by your ecs they chalked you up to be just another rich kid... but not rich enough for them to really want you. You might not even be rich, but golf tournaments and silent auctions usually spell out rich kid who is using a cause to get into college. I truly think that's unfortunate bc your SAT scores and grades certainly merit at least a deferral in my eyes. I'm sure you'll end up somewhere great.</p>
<p>Lucky, sorry I jumped on you about that. I've read a bunch of your lines about how "being normal" got you in. I guess it's tough from the other side of the fence (i.e. rejected) to relate to that.</p>
<p>filmxoxo, I have thought about that. The golf tournament / silent auction thing happened to be what I picked...I was deciding b/w that & a 5k run. Maybe I should have stressed the fundraising more (my adopted sister is a huge part of my life), but I thought it was made clear in my essay and supp. materials.</p>
<p>thats really, odd- i can't figure out a reason why you could truly get denied- chance of the draw, I guess</p>
<p>All the kids at my school (4) who applied ED to Penn were simply rejected. One was a legacy. They all had descent SAT scores and good gpa's. I was thinking about applying RD to Penn, but after that fiasco I just don't know...</p>
<p>Do you mind revealing your general geographic region? South, Midwest ???</p>
<p>Pittsburgh. Penn gives preference to only the Philadelphia students, when considering Pennsylvanian residence. So, out on the other side of the state they are just left to die...</p>
<p>Thanks just curious......I have heard/read many tales of woe. East Coast kids think Midwest kids got in, Midwest coast kids think Southerners got in. I'd say it was just a hard year.</p>
<p>stam, you know if you applied to any other ivy league colleges you're going to get in...so screw UPenn</p>
<p>Yeh, it's been a rough year for alot of kids. Especially at my school. We have had almost everyone rejected or deferred at the top tier schools, and only 3 get in to the Ivies and others. Hopefully it shapes up and we can get in somewhere in the RD round. </p>
<p>As for UPenn I think I'll wait for graduate study. I plan to do some work in Archaeology and they have one of the best programmes in the country. Tied with Chicago, but I don't want to go to Chicago. Too windy. But for Undergraduate study I think I'll go somewhere else.</p>
<p>I live two hours away from Penn.
3 applied for ED, 2 got in. 1 defer.
And I believe 2 are applying for regular decision. Ill let you know those stats a little later...</p>
<p>BUT, I wouldnt say that Penn doesnt look at all of PA. Theyre being pretty generous to my horrible public school. We only ever sent one other person to Penn (3 years ago)</p>
<p>Then again, not really anyone applies.</p>
<p>hmm.</p>
<p>stam = i agree. screw penn. youll get in anywhere else, for sure. if you dont, theres a problem.</p>
<p>Well, you have to also consider the fact that the number of people applying ED rose 20%. And also, they over accepted last year so they had to cut down the class size even more this year.
It's crazy.
My friend's dad is an admissions officer at penn... so I ask him SO many questions. haha. Lucky kid</p>
<p>regardless of whether they are cutting down on class size, i'm sure people like stambliark had most of their acceptee's beat across the board.</p>
<p>retarded choice imo.</p>
<p>Re: the region of state. I am from the suburbs of Philly. My public HS always has between 15 and 20 early applicants to Penn. Last year, we got 12 in. This year, we got about 7 or 8 in of 21. They were definately more difficult.</p>
<p>One reason in particular for a higher admit rate near Philadelphia IMO is the presence of faculty members who work at Penn and have kids who apply b/c of tuition benefits.</p>
<p>wow, the statsistics you guys are talking about sound pretty good to me right now.</p>
<p>From my normal, Philly suburb public school, 28 applied...........1 got in.</p>
<p>Yeah.</p>
<p>Stambliark - Aside from your California/Wharton status I agree with filmxoxo17 that your ECs may have had something to do with it. I know this wasn't the case for you, but I can see it being all too easy for wealthy parents to give money to some cause and let the kid take credit for fundraising. I think adcoms, especially at Wharton, may be suspicious if that's the main hook in someone's ECs.</p>
<p>hmm I dunno. I really hope that's not the case though, and if it was I wish they called me and quizzed me on it (I even wrote in my supplemental materials that they could do that if they liked). My dad and 2 brothers did play golf in the tournament...so my family's contribution was about 1% of the event's profit.</p>
<p>I did put on my little EC chart that I worked on it 28 hrs/wk for 13 wks, and they got a newspaper article that pretty much discussed how it was so great that a bunch of kids could put this together on their own. They also got a list of our sponsors, notably around $5,000 cash from and 80 silent auction items that were donated by around 60 sponsors. I suppose they could've thought my parents did most of it and I took credit for it, but they at least knew that it wasn't just a bunch of cash donated by mom and dad.</p>
<p>I didn't send an extra recommendation from anyone involved with the event, as I thought they wouldn't be able to add anything that the newspaper article wouldn't. For my RD schools, should I try to get a rec from the tournament director at the club, or one of the sponsors I was really involved with, etc.?</p>
<p>your defining moment was when you walked into your uncle's gold-plated bathroom? was the fact that the bathroom was gold-plated have anything to do with your desire to do business? because that seems a little bit money-hungry and wharton doesn't necessarily want that to be the reason you attend their school</p>
<p>and yea, it would've also been nice to have additional leadership in addition to the fundraisers.. something that went year round and didn't focus on getting money</p>
<p>much luck with other schools</p>
<p>No, my essay was about how I really had no understanding between the differences of rich/poor up until that point. Upon questioning my uncle about his corporate ventures and why that lead to his "different" bathroom, I grew interested in the various components that make up business in general..blah blah blah, deep "revelation" essay.</p>