<p>Didn’t mean to denigrate your writing. I guess what I meant was, that having talent in the arts is helpful to the school- they need singers, dancers, orchestra members to be members of performance groups and to round out the student body.</p>
<p>SomeGirl – this is the second time you’ve posted you question about being admitted to Fordham with a 1.8 GPA.</p>
<p><a href=“http://talk.collegeconfidential.com/what-my-chances/855358-what-my-chances-fordham-1-8-gpa.html[/url]”>http://talk.collegeconfidential.com/what-my-chances/855358-what-my-chances-fordham-1-8-gpa.html</a></p>
<p>I guess you didn’t like the answers you got the first time, which were very similar to the answers you’re getting this time.</p>
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<p>Well, you’re not listening to what anyone is telling you. Your lack of academic focus in high school, even if there are legitimate reasons for it, means that you missed the education that you should have gotten in high school. Fordham, or any other school for that matter, isn’t looking to admit students who are going to be in over their heads.</p>
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<p>That’s a silly question. Of course they do.</p>
<p>What about their creative writing program?</p>
<p>Somegirl, special talents only help insofar as you have respectable grades. With those grades, even scholarship basketball players will not meet the “minimum” academic requirements. Accepting a student with 1.8 GPA would just be too much of a risk for an academic powerhouse like Fordham, whose average is a 3.7. If you had let’s say a 3.0 and 1700 on the SAT’s, then maybe being an URM, special talents, and an unfortunate situation like yours, would be considered. You need to fit the mold somewhat before they can start considering other things, or it just won’t be fair to the other students in the University. As for your abilities or intelligence, no one has questioned that. You seem to be a fairly intelligent person based on how you write these posts. However, your GPA and SAT score indicate that you did not receive the necessary preparation (obviously due to your unfortunate situation) that is needed to handle the rigors of a Fordham education. Going to a community college and working really hard for two years might prepare you better for Fordham. To be honest, I think you have 0% chance of being accepted but a very good chance of transferring in, because I think you’re intelligent and can work hard. So after two years, if Fordham is still your choice, definitely apply. My brother was rejected with a 3.7 GPA and a slightly below-average SAT score (me being a Fordham student did not even help), but he still transferred in a year later. Didn’t want to dishearten you, just didn’t want to disillusion you. So good luck – you still have plenty of time to turn it around if Fordham doesn’t accept you and still end up with a Fordham degree. </p>
<p>Feel free to P.M me any of the poems or any other questions on CC. And to the other posters on here, there are better ways to answer a question than being rude.</p>
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<p>That was posted only a short while ago in a different forum; a lot of people post the same thread twice in different subforms of this site in order to get a different perspective. </p>
<p>Of course, all the perspective in the world won’t make it any easier since the overall issue is the same. Transferring is probably the best bet since I really think that, if not for the situation at home, she could have had better grades that would have given her a decent shot at being admitted.</p>
<p>SomeGirl: Private schools love special talents, exceptional writing talent is certainly applicable, but may not be a desired as other talents such as athletic ability or talents that have won local, state or national awards. You did not mention the drastic upward trend in your initial post, but your ACT score does not reflect that. Obviously we’re not getting the whole picture here, your admissions counselor has it though.
Best of luck, but try to find a backup school just in case.</p>
<p>Thanks for the help and advice everyone. I’ll let you all know if I get in or not.</p>
<p>DD was one of the Your Choice kids and received repeated emails and letters asking her to apply. Application for YCs are free. Her stats were decent-not outstanding but solidly in the upper middle Fordham range-and she got rejected. That being said, who knows who will read your app and how it will strike them? I wouldn’t discourage you from applying but would suggest you round out your choices. Good luck.</p>
<p>A lot of people have already posted, but in regards to creative writing…</p>
<p>There is NO creative writing major, only a minor. Everyone is expected to be especially strong writers at Fordham. There is an extensive core curriculum that no one is exempt from including 2 years of a foreign language (until fluency), mathematics, sciences, philosophy and theology courses. While you may be strong in english you will need to survive all the other classes and with classes tending towards 40 students for the core you need to get through them largely on your own.</p>
<p>Getting into college and surviving in college are separate things. You need to be prepared for both…</p>
<p>I’m going to call in the morning and update my application. I want to change my planned major to Philosophy with a minor in Creative Writing. Also, … Guess what, guys? I qualified for NATIONALS in Debate, I got 2nd place at State in DECA in Business Law & Ethics, and I got 1st place in Speech in Academic Decathlon!! …Will that increase my chances of acceptance?</p>
<p>Planned major honestly makes no difference whatsoever in college acceptances unless you were pre-med. Changing your major won’t add to your chances. As far as debate, that’s great but the top factors in college acceptance are SAT’s, GPA’s, class rank/ rigor of classes. EC’s are nice but… unfortunately not enough to change a decision in most cases.</p>
<p>SomeGirl individual talents do help but I don’t know how much. Listen all you can do is wait no one knows your chances and you just might be surprised. I know this girl who has a lower gpa than you and she got into Delaware State University not only that but they even gave her money and thats not even including her finacial aid package. The odds are against you but even if you dont get in at least you know that you tried.</p>
<p>How is the debate team at Fordham? What if I told them I was interested in joining?</p>
<p>I don’t know if you all know, and I don’t want to come off as arrogant, but to qualify for Nationals in debate is a HUGE deal. And on top of that, I’m the only one to qualify on my entire team. As a debater, I now rank nationally as an individual.</p>
<p>The blunt truth is no. The chances of that changing the decision are almost 0. EC count more in regards to you being active in your school, not on an individual basis. Things that will change the outcome are your senior year grades, the grades you get now. If you’re spending time preparing for debates instead of doing homework you’re hurting your chances. If you showed Fordham straight A’s this year your chances would be significantly better, but still, telling them you qualified as a nationally ranked debater will not overshadow gpa AND testing scores.</p>
<p>Did you retake the ACT to bring up that 17, or did you take the SAT? You said you were planning to do that. If you haven’t, it seems a bit late, since Fordham said they’d be mailing your decision in a few days, and you submitted the 17 with your app. How are your grades now? Truthfully, it seems too late to make a lot of changes to your app now.</p>
<p>“Do they have compassion? Of course they do. But they also have kids with 3.2 gpas’ and SAT’s on the bubble (1150) and what do they do with them? Take you and reject them? Is that fair?” </p>
<p>First off thank you very much ghostbuster for pointing that out.
Second, you have to realize SomeGirl that they have a HUUUGE point. Fordham has recently become a very selective school and the way you are presenting you’re status & their “choice application” situation sounds a bit…i don’t mean to sound offensive…but it sounded a bit “pity me…and will they pity me”…</p>
<p>You have to realize there are a TON of us applying and i personally come from an immigrated family, first generation hispanic with a weightedGPA of 3.4, plus an honor class and volunteer work…yes your E.C. activities (awards, etc…) are good but I too received the ‘Choice Application’ and for example, for them to accept you over me would be extremely unfair because my work ethic at least shows in my grades and scores…etc…</p>
<p>I don’t mean to demean your situation or intelligence/work ethic AT ALL!! Please, don’t take it that way…I just really want to stress that there are a thousand of ‘you’ out there with, sorry to say, MUCH better scores and grades who are applying to this school and I actually felt a bit upset hearing you keep convincing yourself or proving points, or asking things that if you showed off other stuff that if it will help you when there are others like me who also had/have heavy “issues” to go through too but stayed focus no matter how hard it was or the times became. That is all…again I’m not trying to be so negative but as a applying senior this year as well, I thought i’d give my somewhat upset point of view. -Thanks.</p>
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<p>Is this really that hard of a concept to grasp? Fordham University buys a mailing list. That’s all. You are not special. They do not want you specifically. You are an email on a mailing list.</p>
<p>Tht was my point xactly wen I mentioned I received it too. It’s just another marketing thing by the admissions. Alot of colleges do it. It doesn’t mean they WANT you SPECIFICALLY. Thnks for clarifying what I didn’t.</p>
<p>@somegirl did you end up getting on?</p>
<p>She hasn’t posted on cc since her last post in this thread…we may never know.</p>