What are my chances of Acceptance to Harvard?

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<p>I am trying to get into Harvard I would appreciate it if you would tell me my chances.</p>

<p>White male
SAT: 2210
Verbal: 730
Writing: 730
Math: 750</p>

<p>ACT: 31
Math section: 35
Science section: 35
Don’t have the other two on hand</p>

<p>SAT II:
Biology: 730
Physics: 760
Math level 2: 720
American: 720</p>

<p>I took the AP European test last year and got a 3
This year I took the AP Physics B and AP American History tests</p>

<p>Next year I will be taking AP comparative government, AP English Literature, AP BC Calculus, AP Chemistry, and a college level French class offered at my school since AP was cut by budget.</p>

<p>I have a 4.52 GPA out of 5.4 which is a 3.7 on the 4.0 scale</p>

<p>I am ranked about 100 out of 650 in my class</p>

<p>In my Junior High/High School career I have taken 18 honors classes, 7 AP classes, and various electives</p>

<p>I play piano on my own and stopped doing NYSMA a couple years ago at level 5, I played trumpet in the school band in junior high where I was first trumpet, I also played in the junior high jazz band through 9th grade, after going to high school I didn't have time in my schedule for those classes so now I just play on my own.</p>

<p>I play football and am the starting center and defensive end on my team,
I have made contact with the Harvard coaches but they won't help you get in unless they are interested in you and while I may have a chance getting their interest I am not counting on it I want to know my chances without their help</p>

<p>I throw shot put in winter track and placed tenth in the league last year (third on my team),
I also throw shot put in the spring,
I play on a baseball travel team in the spring (I used to play on the school team from 7th-9th grade but haven't made the team since),
I wrestled in seventh and eighth grade in eighth grade I was a captain but stopped because football was taking up too much time in the off season,
I do community service in the soup kitchen at my church twice a week</p>

<p>For a job I work in my dad's office/warehouse helping with computer problems, loading tools onto trucks for jobs, moving equipment with a forklift or overhead crane, and operating machine and welding equipment
My dad is a Master Rigger and runs his own business with warehouses in Hauppauge long island and in the Bronx, He has done such jobs as the rigging work for the Spiderman and superman movies such as the camera rigging or swinging stunt men, he has constructed large sculptures for artists, he also does work such as lifting generators onto buildings in NYC</p>

<p>My dad attend Suffolk Community College on long island for 2 years and work in the iron workers union before starting his own business that is doing VERY well now about 25 years later.</p>

<p>My Mom attended SUNY Stony Brook and got her masters, she was a nurse and was the head of an entire wing of St. Johns hospital, she stopped working after me and my sister were born.</p>

<p>I have a sister who is a year older than me who will be attending Skidmore in the fall.</p>

<p>So what are my chances of getting into Harvard I would do anything to go there, it seems like the perfect school for me in every way</p>

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<p>Your class rank and your location will both work against you. Top 10% is pretty much the minimum for the average candidate. Being from NY and Long Island places you in competition with Bronx Sci, Stuy, etc. along with all the private schools in that area. Your SAT scores are pretty much the only thing that would put you in the running, and they are just average in the Harvard pool. I would look at some smaller LACs that might be interested in your athletic abilities as well as your strong scores.</p>

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<p>Unless you get consideration as a recruited athlete, your chances are about 5-10% of gaining admission.</p>

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<p>Not that good really, when only 9.8% are admitted.</p>

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<p>I agree with bandit_TX, without the recruitment from the football coach your chances will probably be the same as all the other well qualified students (but your gpa and school rank is kinda low). I would predict you have about a 10% chance, but best of luck.</p>

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<p>Your AI is 207. This means that your rank is 4 out of 9. So, of the people who will apply to Harvard, 55% to 66% will have better grades and test scores than you and 34% to 45% will have worse scores. Harvard admitted about 9% to 10% last year. You have no "hook", you are not a URM (underrepresented minority), your parents both went to college and you probably won't play a sport. </p>

<p>I put your odds of acceptance at around 7% to 15%.</p>

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<p>without something besides what you listed above, I would put your chances of being accepted at Harvard at about zero.</p>

<p>I don't want to be mean -- but your test scores and GPA are not exemplary, your class rank is low for Harvard, and you don't seem to have any hooks -- nothing to distinguish you from anyone else that applies. The fact that you are a white male from NY will really work against you.</p>

<p>being recruited for football or absolutely out-of-this world essays might give you a slim chance.</p>

<p>just an FYI -- what you did in junior high school and what your parents do or where your sister goes to school isn't really going to factor into what would qualify you for a school (except where you have an experience directly related). Make sure you leave off that type of information on college applications -- it is inappropriate there.</p>

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<p>I also forgot to say that the 3.7 GPA is unweighted, I do not know what my weighted GPA is. How do you find you weighted GPA? My Few regular classes are A or A+, and my AP and Honors are mostly A's, I have no B's and only a few B+'s in only AP and Honors classes.</p>

<p>Also the class rank is not exact, my school does not do class ranking ok any kind, the number I gave you was just my guidance counselors estimate so I have no actual rank that will be given to colleges.</p>

<p>I handed the coach my transcrpit and told him my SAT, SATII and ACT scores and he told me that he thought I had a pretty good chance without them recruiting me</p>

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<p>the 3.7 unweighted GPA helps. don't worry about the weighted GPA -- it sounds like your school doesn't weight grades and colleges will look at unweighted anyway.</p>

<p>Your class rank is important -- what you want is to be in the top 10%, so in a class of 650 -- you want to be at least number 65. your school may not rank, but your guidance counselor will be asked to indicate what decile you are in regards to your class -- and you want him to be able to mark "top decile"</p>

<p>My suggestion would be to study very, very hard and raise your SAT scores. If you can get the verbal and math over 750 that will also help.</p>

<p>If you can be in the top 10% of your class, raise your V/M SAT scores over 750 and write some fantastic essays -- I would say you at least have a slim chance. it is the fact that you are from NY that is killing you -- just so many highly, highly qualified applicants from there. you will really need to stand out.</p>

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<p>also -- the coach really didn't know what he was talking about. Your stats definitely put you in the range of student's accepted -- but less than 10% of the applicants to Harvard are accepted and the majority of those are very qualified, you have to really stand out in some way.</p>

<p>I would see if you can talk to the coach about being recruited for football -- unless you don't plan to play in college.</p>

<p>What other schools are on your list?</p>

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<p>I have vistited Union, RPI, Colgate, WPI, Holy Cross, Tufts, and Harvard. I didn't like RPI, WPI, or Holy Cross, so that leaves Union Colgate, and Tufts so far. All the coaches and interviewers at all three schools including tufts called me a shoe in.</p>

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<p>"your school may not rank, but your guidance counselor will be asked to indicate what decile you are in regards to your class -- and you want him to be able to mark "top decile""</p>

<p>But that is what I am trying to tell you, my school will not give any rank or quartile or dectile rank whatsoever. The fact is that my school WILL NOT SEND ANY RANKING, that's just the way my school is, I don't know why. I have a college counsolor that wanted some indication of my rank and we tried everything to find some number from my guidence consulor but they just don't give one. She said no matter what they will not give a class placement of any kind she just gave us that estimate to get us to stop bugging her for a number</p>

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<p>The other thing that hurts me is that about 3/4 of my school are asians who just go home and study right after school and have no lives, it really sucks, I think that is why they stoppewd class ranking because these kids were throwing off the curve.</p>

<p>I mean I have been on the high honor roll every quarter every year. In the front of my school they have a list of honor roll students and a list of high honor roll students, and there are about 350 high honor roll students and only about 100 honor roll students, in my grade alone</p>

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<p>keep working on the list -- make sure you have a safety you love.</p>

<p>Have you considered the midwest or west coast? you wouldn't be at such a disadvantage geographically a little further from home.</p>

<p>keep in mind that nowadays, nothing is a shoo-in! take some time to read through this thread -- <a href="http://talk.collegeconfidential.com/showthread.php?t=47867&highlight=wrong%5B/url%5D"&gt;http://talk.collegeconfidential.com/showthread.php?t=47867&highlight=wrong&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p>

<p>Instead of posting all your information and asking about harvard, repost your stats (leaving out the info on your parents and junior high). Also indicate what part of the country you are looking at, what your interests and possible major might be, what you want in a school (big/small, urban/rural, etc). If you tell us what you liked about Harvard, Colgate and Tufts (and what you didn't like about RPT, WPI and Holy Cross) it will help. Tell us whether you will need financial aid or merit aid.</p>

<p>Then ask people to recommend some colleges for you -- you might be surprised at the amount of knowledge people here have and some of the suggestions might be perfect and you would have never thought of them.</p>

<p>I would suggest you apply to harvard, if you feel it was a perfect match -- just make sure to apply to plenty of other schools that are also perfect matches!</p>

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<p>Well maybe I will be able to get their coaches interested, they said the average PLAYING defensive lineman thay have is around 230 and 6'1" but they do have freshmen who are smaller, I am about 220 and 6'2", so if I gain some weight and have a good year I may be able to get their interest and get me in. My main position is Center, but I don't think I have a chance at getting recruited for O-line, as they average 250-280, so I will just have to be amazing when I am in on defence and I think I actually have a chance. I am taking over the defensice position of out all county defensive end and that position gets all the chances to make big plays, I just hope I'm lucky.</p>

<p>It's funny I spent all this time working on my grades and it seems as if my chances at harvard is comming down to my football. I would love to play whereever I went, but I would go to Harvard even if I couldn't play.</p>

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<p>bump------------------</p>

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<p>A QB from my HS (from my freshman year) got into Harvard for his football. He was good, but not that great. He probably had decent scores/stats. Last I heard, he isn't even on the Harvard Football team roster. Weird.</p>

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<p>yea i agree, you basically suck at life...do us all a favor and jump off a building</p>

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<p>dude, not cool</p>

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<p>without help from coaches, you're looking at a likely rejection with a below average rank and average SAT/GPA</p>