<p>My sciences grades so far are:</p>
<p>Cal I: C+
Cal II: B
Chem I: A
Chem II: B+
Chem lab: A
Ochem I: B-
Ochem lab I: A-
Ochem II: C+</p>
<p>My overall GPA is 3.502
I am gonna be a junior in Fall 14. I haven't done any volunteering at hospitals or any shadowing but I'm a research assistant at NYU Dept. of Population Health doing mostly data entry for now.</p>
<p>I was wondering if I should retake orgo II. How are my chances of getting into med school looking? Please help.</p>
<p>Impossible to say without a MCAT score.</p>
<p>Your sGPA is low (~3.05) and needs significant improvement if you want to be a viable applicant.</p>
<p>Your low sGPA plus your complete lack of clinical experience & shadowing makes an application after junior year very ill advised. You have some serious remediation to do first. </p>
<p>Retakes are a double edge sword. If you retake and get an A, adcomms will discount the A. (“Of course he got an A, it was his second time thru.”) If you retake and get less than an A, it makes you look like a bad risk for med school. (“Unable to master material even after repeated attempts.”) IOW, don’t retake unless you’re sure you can earn an A.</p>
<p>Are you at NYU? What is your major? If you still want to be on the premed track, As WOWM said, you may have to take a year post bacc to remediate your SGPA and it is not easy. Some how, you are not grasping the Org Chem theory or methods, you have to seriously think twice about retaking them(I & II) and see if you really can improve. Otherwise, you can concentrate on other subject matters and that might be more profitable, than be a carpet beggar.</p>
<p>BTW, NYU is a place you don’t want to retake, very expensive. And I am sorry to say most pre-med got weeded out in the Org,</p>
<p>No I’m at Hunter College. I feel like I could do better if I give Orgo another go.</p>
<p>Very well, as long as you get a sgpa over 3.5 and a decent MCAT you can be a serious contender. MCAT is a big factor in your success, work hard on it.</p>
<p>Does a sgpa include just the main required science courses (math, chem, orgo, bio, physics) or does it include biochem, anatomy/physiology, microbio/cellbio and all other recommended classes?</p>
<p>You sGPA includes any classes with a bio, chem, physics or math prefix. So if you taken science course in any of those departments, those grades will be included in your sGPA calculations.</p>
<p>“Does a sgpa include just the main required science courses (math, chem, orgo, bio, physics) or does it include biochem, anatomy/physiology, microbio/cellbio and all other recommended classes?”</p>
<p><a href=“https://www.aamc.org/students/applying/amcas/amcasresources/349784/courseclassificationguide.html”>https://www.aamc.org/students/applying/amcas/amcasresources/349784/courseclassificationguide.html</a></p>
<p>above is link to pdf version of AMCAS’s course classification. Note that it’s a guide as to what is/what is not a science/non science course. Course classifications are not etched in stone. As this guide suggests, if in doubt, ask you advisor/check your school’s catalog/website.</p>
<p>Examples, Nutrition is not considered a science course. If school’s website states the course is about the four food groups, it sounds like it’s not a science course. If school’s website states the course is about the way the carbs, proteins, etc are broken down and metabolized in body, then it sounds like a science course.</p>
<p>If Statistics credit is earned via a Psych course v credit earned through Math dept, what is its classification???</p>
<p>When it comes down to listing courses as science/not science, in my opinion, you don’t want anything slowing up the processing of your med school app, so ask an advisor/school’s website if in doubt. Alternately, if by chance AMCAS reclassifies your decision to list a course say science v non science, at least you can, if you choose, make a case for your classification decision.</p>
<p>You won’t make it, sorry.</p>
<p>If you retake, you better have A/ A+ since both will be counted, you cannot get rid of your previous grade (as far as I heard, no personla experience). Then if you pull a decent MCAT, you may have a shot.<br>
One thing I do not get. Why do you think that you will pull an A, when you could not do it before? And if you could, what prevented you from getting an A? Unless you have a clear answer, I cannot see why all of a sudden you would get an A instead of C.</p>
<p>If you retake and get an A, then apply to DO schools. They allow grade replacement.</p>