<p>PtonGrad2000 also makes a note regarding Princeton’s cross admit numbers. Given that these are not publicly released and thus can’t be verified outside the Princeton community, take with some salt:</p>
<p>Hey Tufts is a pretty good school. Its not incredibly recognizable when you talk to the general population, but to people in the kno its good (kind of like Duke in my area, people don’t know its good unless you are in a certain field because people in New England rarely go down south).</p>
<p>My cousin went there and graduated '08. He was a pretty smart kid - 1450/1600 SAT top 5% of class. This year our class valedictorian (who beat me out by .009 GPA that son of a b---- lol) is going there - 2220/2400. A girl I work with who is really smart goes there - 2230/2400 top 5% of class. And I still remember in December, the day the class valedictorian and I were deferred by Dartmouth, this lady saw I was ****ed off and asked me what was up. I told her about how I was mad about not being accepted. She told me her son was valedictorian of his class and got a perfect SAT score but was still rejected by Yale, so went to Tufts and had the time of his life! Tufts is a great school.</p>
<p>Just because its not as recognizable as the Ivies or Stanford/MIT doesn’t make it bad, people who go there tend to want to be there for their own reasons.</p>
<p>You think they mean a step down from the Ivy League, but really they mean a step down from HYPSM. It basically is saying they are equal to Columbia, Dartmouth, Brown, and Penn, and above Cornell.</p>
<p>According to the numbers reported by Duke admissions in this article, </p>
<p>HYPSM vs Duke: HYPSM wins 85% of the time.
Duke vs Columbia, Dartmouth, Brown, Penn: Duke wins 60-40% of the time. Almost split.
Duke vs Cornell: Duke wins 85-90% of the time.</p>
<p>Yet I want to know what it is for Dartmouth vs Duke and Columbia vs Duke specifically. Dartmouth was my #1 and a URM from my school and a URM from a rival school got into Columbia but no one else. I was just curious.</p>
<p>meh, i saw the whole duke vs columbia/penn/dartmouth/cornell thing before. it’s all very subjective. but i think that if you look at it, they are all excellent places. i’d say personally that duke = columbia = penn = dartmouth > cornell. lol sorry cornell :/</p>
<p>btw skateboarder, if you don’t mind me asking, what made you choose tufts over duke? just wondering. i’m not incredulous, in case thats what you might think ahah :)</p>
<p>Some interesting cross-admit data taken from 84 students in the WUSTL Facebook group (only USNWR top 20 schools included), with the number of students in parenthesis:</p>
<p>Emory (14)
Hopkins (12)
Northwestern (12)
Rice (9)
Vanderbilt (9)
Cornell (7)
Chicago (6)
Duke (4)
Penn (4)
Notre Dame (3)
Brown (2)
MIT
Stanford</p>
<p>There’s no way of knowing how many chose in the opposite way, but it’s pretty clear that the most frequent cross-admits for WUSTL are Emory, Hopkins, Northwestern, Rice, and Vanderbilt.</p>
<p>wait wait back up a minute, skateboarder you got into Duke and Tufts and chose Tufts?! I’m with my fellow Dukie eatsalot. I mean Tufts is a great school as I already stated, and I wholeheartedly feel it is, but why would you choose it over Duke? The only reason that I could think of is the smaller enviornment if that is your thing, or if you love Boston (although Tufts is outside in Medford). But why did you choose Tufts over Duke? In terms of graduate school placement and internships and alumni connections, Duke wins hands down.</p>
<p>duke is 10 minutes from my house, and very, very preppy. I basically shot myself in the foot over wanting to go to a college I was excited about. I’m now not so excited about the actual academics/relative strength of the school, and will possibly try to transfer into Duke, which will be difficult.</p>