<p>I can't believe that a school such as Bob Jones University still exists in today's society.</p>
<p>BJU was my safety.</p>
<p>here's a thread worth perusing on Middlebury related to this subject:
<a href="http://talk.collegeconfidential.com/showthread.php?t=67895%5B/url%5D">http://talk.collegeconfidential.com/showthread.php?t=67895</a></p>
<p>Top Ten Reasons Why an African American would Want to Go to Bob Jones U.</p>
<ol>
<li><p>Keep you friends close, but your enemies closer.</p></li>
<li><p>Give yourself great Essay material for your transfer application to Harvard the following year.</p></li>
<li><p>To See what KKK members look like without their sheets.</p></li>
<li><p>Date some white people and P.O. some people that deserve it.</p></li>
<li><p>Refine Dawin's theory of evolution to show that after evolution comes de-evolution.</p></li>
</ol>
<p>6.Be in a library that will not have any reference to Arno Penzias.</p>
<ol>
<li><p>Meet the people who will be running the Country for the next thirty years.</p></li>
<li><p>Do something that's tougher than being a marine without the physical exertion.</p></li>
<li><p>Learn about the early 20th century by living in it: and,</p></li>
<li><p>Write a book to pay for your post grad.</p></li>
</ol>
<p>What about Vanderbilt? Although it is said that this university is trying to diverse itself because lack of diversity, could one conclude that this university is realisticly rasict? I mean, although they are trying to make the student body more colorful, what is the cause of this less diverse crowd? Why are there so little percent of blacks enrolled? I am interested in Vandy as a 2nd choice school, but if it is racist, I'll SERIOUSLY have to rethink my choices.</p>
<p>could one conclude that this university is realisticly rasict</p>
<p>No. The fact they actively trying to recruit minorities is racist however, because they are basically admitting that there are intrinsic differences between people of different skin color.</p>
<p>If a university's ethnic makeup isn't consistent with the national average, that doesn't automatically make it racist. There are many other factors, like cost, location, and the types of programs the university has.</p>
<p>Regarding the idea that Boston is racist, I don't find it racist so much as insular. Anything beyond the usual (Irish and Italian Catholicism, mainly) is often looked at skeptically, but not in an unwelcoming way. You will always have isolated incidents, but it's not a widespread issue, in my opinion.</p>
<p>Most of the "Boston is racist" reputation comes from busing and the subsequent riots. The fact is, Boston has a proud history of being arguably the most welcoming city in the country, dating right back to Colonial times.</p>
<p>yeah when they surrounded the city with cannons :D</p>
<p>Vanderbilt is NOT racist by any means. It is actually not any more "white" heavy than most other universities, and although it has a reputation for being more conservative, it is a very friendly and diverse school with plenty of flaming liberals to go around.</p>
<p>I see it’s an old thread but for any *Desi <a href=“South%20Asian”>/I</a> students reading this, this experience might help you a bit. I was enrolled at Louisiana State University, Baton Rouge for the Graduate program (around the time of Hurricane Katrina). In my observation, most Americans, especially the younger crowd aren’t really racist and on the contrary, were quite helpful to me. Because of my brown skin, I did get called “Ni<strong><em>r” on occasions by some *</em></strong>***s but that’s about it -in fact, they were probably over-concerned about my welfare. I didn’t have any major problems in summary. The professors were quite nice and helpful too. </p>
<p>One thing I don’t like about education in the States is that most students stick to their own, and if you’re an **international male student **from a **non-White **country, you’d pretty much remain isolated from the pulse of university life. I mean one of the biggest reasons I wanted to study in a different country (United States) was to gain maximum possible exposure of local culture. Even though I was quite eager to make American friends, most of them were superficial in behavior (Hi’s, Hellos and all) and maintain their distance, like I didn’t even exist for them. None of them (except for 1-2) ever invited me to their homes, or were actually interested in my background. They also had weird ideas about India so in all the time I spent there, I could not connect with the in-crowd’s wavelength. After trying pretty hard to “go local” with no success, I gave up and spent my remaining course period with South Asians who, happened to be all a bunch of boring *******s. They would save every dollar like misers and whine all day about petty things. My college life in India was a lot more exciting than spending time with these people who had no humor, no sense of hygiene and were just not my kind of people. </p>
<p>I was reasonably depressed and felt out of place and left halfway through the course because I couldn’t take it any longer. </p>
<p>One major disadvantage for South Asian students studying in the States is most of us really are very poor and can’t afford to socialize much with the locals, even if they seem friendlt. Life is pretty expensive and hard over one is forced to become anti-social and a shadow of their former selves. For someone who was a popular stage-host in his college in India, it was difficult to adjust to the fact that you were no longer popular -noone wanted anything to do with you. In American dictionary, you simply don’t translate.</p>
<p>However, let’s take solace in the fact it’s only the United States (and possibly Canada too) that poses these kind of social limitations on Indian students. European countries, Australia, Japan etc. offer very exciting social and academic experiences, that too without complicated formalities such as GRE, TOEFL, SEVIS and hell lot of rules. One particular thing that would stuck you about the States is the millions of laws and rules. This is one country where you could be fined for a simple offense as jay-walking. </p>
<p>So, for any Indian students considering a study in the US, unless you’re the anti-social kind, you may want to rethink it.</p>
<p>How can a University be racist? People go in and out every year, different people from different parts of the country/world, different nationalities, etc. I saw someone said Southern schools might be more racist, now that’s just stereotypical… I do agree that colleges like Bob Jones, and those other unaccredited religious institutions probably do have racist people on their staff, but so can any accredited college…</p>
<p>Justaguest - just because you had a bad experience in the US doesn’t mean it’s like that for all Indian students. You went to Louisiana State U, a school in the deep South, a part of the country that has more of a history of racism. The USA is a huge country with a massive population, and it’s very diverse. I go to NYU and there are a LOT of of international students from India/Pakistan/China here and they don’t have this problem. As a South-Asian American i haven’t had this problem either. </p>
<p>Growing up in Long Island, NY, in a mostly white/asian town, I was lucky enough never to experience outright racism. After 9/11, our community was hit pretty hard since we’re right outside NYC, and even then my family never had to suffer outright racism, I always felt like a part of a close-knit community. Yet my relatives in Texas, halfway around the country experienced a lot of racism after 9/11 as their idiot neighbors would approach them in supermarkets to ask them questions and flew their Confederate flags. I don’t understand the mentality of these people, they’re not the ones who lost family and friends that day like we did. Makes me glad i didn’t grow up in the confederacy. </p>
<p>I hope the stereotypes about all the southern/midwestern colleges aren’t true. The southern/midwestern friends i’ve made in college are kind people and i’ve never heard them say racist things.</p>
<p>I don’t think a college is racist. It’s not like they’re acceptance letters read “Congratulations, you’ve been admitted to X University (…as long as you’re white.)”</p>
<p>^ Well, schools like Bob Jones which prohibit interracial dating (now they require parents to sign permission slips or something lol) can be called racist. </p>
<p>as for other colleges, i think what they’re asking is which colleges have a large racist population.</p>
<p>LOL with a name like “Bob Jones” I wouldn’t be surprised if they were racist.</p>
<p>It actually sounds like some Podunk school that teaches lynching and medical assisting.</p>
<p>well this isn’t a charged topic at all.</p>
<p>yeah, i don’t think that there are many colleges with racist policies (and let’s not have another AA debate, we just had one) but every school is gonna have some racists.</p>
<p>i go to vanderbilt but im planning on transferring. i wouldn’t say its OUTRIGHT in its racism but c’mon…all i usually see are white people like me around here. if you go to the cafeteria on main campus, there are clearly “white tables” and “black tables”…i hardly see the two mix. im not making any inferences im just telling it like it is, like what i see. there’s also a little bit of homophobia mixed right in here, and trust me i’d know as a lesbian</p>
<p>id also like to point out that actually BEING a diverse school and having a future plan to becoming more diverse as an institution are two totally different things (still referring to vanderbilt)</p>
<p>Ok, so I never felt the urge to post on this forum before.</p>
<p>As many have stated, Universities are not racist, people are.
You will have racist people everywhere; I do not care where you are from. There are racist people in every culture. </p>
<p>Now, let me offer my personal observations.
I have lived in Mississippi my entire life, arguably the most (perceived) ‘racist’ state in the USA. On the other hand, we are one of the most racially diverse states in the nation. I do not understand people who go to schools with a minimal minority population automatically seeing ‘Deep South’ or ‘Mississippi’ and ‘Alabama’ and thinking ‘Oh, those schools are racist’. Are Universities in Germany Nazi bastions? If someone were to come down from somewhere with a minimal minority population they would see self-segregation. I’ll speak from experience: my lunch room is mostly segregated. Blacks and Whites tend to sit at their own lunch tables. Is this racist? No, because its self-segregation. People tend to identify with, and consequently befriend, people of similar economic and social backgrounds. Does this mean I have no black friends? No. Does this mean I’m racist? No. Racism is not so easily identified. Perhaps this is because I’m from a public school, which has more diverstity. (70% African American, 30% White). From my personal experience the more ‘racist’ schools are private schools (created in the 70s when the school districts were forced to integrate). </p>
<p>Sorry to rant, but to sum up my point: I’m tired of people who go to schools with little to no racial or economic diversity pointing the finger at the South and automatically assuming Racists. All schools will have incidents of racism.</p>
<p>i think the south is inherently screwed as far as race relations go. i don’t see how a group of states can go from one race treating another as property to racial equality, i really don’t.</p>