<p>There is a lot of **** life is going to throw at you, the least of which is deragatory comments. Wake up and smell the ****.</p>
<p>Geez, I didn't mean to sound harsh. I realize that comments like these are common and yes, you're right, we have to deal with them. But not without peaceful protest.
Peace, Faux!</p>
<p>Since when is calling someone black a compliment? Or calling them white, for that manner...</p>
<p>I'm backpacking through Europe with my best girlfriend. So excited...</p>
<p>whats the difference between calling someone a hairy persian vs
a fat x
an ugly x
a skinny x
a light skinned x
a dark skinned x
a stupid x
a smart x
a dirty x
a gay x
a bald x</p>
<p>substitute x for any race
(afaik persian is not derogatory by itself)
the list goes on
I would understand if he called the person a (non)hairy(insulting term here)
but he clearly was only describing physical features</p>
<p>all people can be hairy (especially my one friend, but if I described him as a dark haired hairy jew, I doubt he would care)</p>
<p>you people are not going to pcu</p>
<p>edit
oh yeah, you could have said "dont call people xhairy persians, its offensive" instead of attacking him</p>
<p>"I'm backpacking through Europe with my best girlfriend. So excited..."</p>
<p>Polygamy is illegal in the US :P</p>
<p>STonedPandas,</p>
<p>You have very strong opinions when you post in CC. That can be a great advantage when it comes to your passions and convictions.
As I said earlier, I do not know whether your opinions regarding Affirmative Action and the applications of URMs are correct or incorrect. I am not a URM, I have no professional interest (adcom, or social scientist) so I reserve my opinion on the subject to no more than opinion, not the last word on the subject (Im 17). You have very well founded and unequivocal opinions on the subject, although, to this girl they sound somewhat condescending in tone, they may be well thought out and accurate. If you are right I hope your view wins the day.</p>
<p>I also reserve my opinions on other peoples cultures, ethnicities and religions as I am no expert on any other than my own. Im a content 17 year old Iranian girl living in New Jersey but born elsewhere.</p>
<p>To be clear, I work with the learning disabled, both in New Jersey throughout highschool and over two Full summers as an intern at the University of Michigan (its what I intend to do when I graduate). I am probably more aware than most that derisive descriptions of people who are different cut deeply, whether because of a physical disability or minority status or religious beliefs.</p>
<p>Along with some other posters (some of Iranian descent) I was offended by your casual description/recitation of our ethnic background. I dont know what things are like in LA but in the East, in the last 4 years, since 9-11 and the war in particular, people of middle-eastern descent are a little less casual when they here their background spoken of in less than complimentary terms (I wont repeat the phrase you used in your description, I notice your original post has been removed). I am sensitive to the ridicule of my race/ethnicity, but not of my self. I think its healthy.</p>
<p>Most people say things in private that they would not say in a public forum for the sake of humor or sounding wicked or with-it or drunk or whatever. Whatever was said between you and a friend in private will not translate the same way into casual public speech.</p>
<p>I am only aware of you as a poster on CC. I have no views of you personally. You are not an idiot, as you said of me. Neither of us no each other and you must be wonderful at eisegesis, in being able to interpret my text and feel comfortable in your accusations (I am familiar with the word, its similar to hermeneutics in the philosophy of Heidegger -------I assume you studied hard for the SAT verbal or torah, lol).Im sureyou dont speak about your teachers in derogatory ways when in the classroom, only privately with friends you trust to know what you mean. Something similar applies here.</p>
<p>You are of course free to say what you like about whatever you like and to have it criticized or attacked. Its the nature of free speech. To often PC is meant to imply that criticism is verboten, that is, to claim someone is being PC is to shut them up and stop free critical discourse.
You have a right to say what you will. You are obviously intelligent and well spoken. I respect that, though I would prefer if you didnt use the type of speech you used in reference to Iranians, I dont object to you right to say it or think you are racist because of it. </p>
<p>I will not post any more on this subject and I leave you the last word, you are going to Penn, this is your forum and you deserve that right.</p>
<p>Good luck to you at Penn, it may be a difficult transition from west to east coast, but with your confidence I doubt it would be a problem for you.</p>
<p>I give your Persian friends a big salaam, and wish you the best.</p>
<p>FountainSiren</p>
<p>So, according to some posters,
Why do people get upset when they are called:</p>
<p>Fat
Hairy
Ugly
Skinny
Stupid
Dirty</p>
<p>Is that a question?
Seriously?</p>
<p>Give these descriptives a shot to some of the other posters on this board and see what kind of response you get. Get real!</p>
<p>But I doubt you will, because you KNOW that would be classless and insulting.</p>
<p>And whats with including</p>
<p>Gay
Light-skinned
Dark-skinned</p>
<p>With the other insults listed above.</p>
<p>Are all these terms equivalent in your mind?</p>
<p>How about these terms:</p>
<p>Classless
Uncivilized
Uncouth
Insensitive
Arrogant
Boorish</p>
<p>One point of view:
who cares what they think, we say what the Hail we want, because we can
The other:
Dont say unnecessarily insulting things, or keep it to yourself</p>
<p>Fountainsiren,
At least you have enough class to bow out with honesty and sincerity. I think Ill join you: sans class-sincerity, lol.</p>
<p>but none of those are racial attacks
they are personal ones</p>
<p>but none of those are racial attacks
they are personal ones</p>
<p>are you offended if I call someone you have never met fat or ugly?
I do not understand how it is any different from hairy white guy. Sure, it may be insulting to that person, but it should not insult his whole race.</p>
<p>if I were to insult you would it insult the rest of your race?</p>
<p>also, my main problem was not if it was wrong to say, but rather that instead of stating that, he/she started personal attacks</p>
<p>megamike- did you read the original post? I mean, it is over now, and I would rather not bring it up, but I just need to respond to what you've stated: the original post did not say a hairy Iranian, but rather, a non-hairy Iranian... it's a play off of a stereotype... it's like saying, to go off of a previously mentioned stereotype, a non-hooknosed Jew. It draws attention to the stereotype. I think that it is absolutely different than saying a hairy Iranian. If that was what was said, it would be different. Maybe I'm just over analyzing this, it's like saying that the majority of this group is one way and that this person is an exception... I guess it's just how you look at it and interpret it for yourself.
That's just my take on it all...</p>
<p>There are also good stereo types though like how blacks have huge ****s and jews are rich so ...</p>
<p>What a lovely post, Fountain. I can respond civily to something like that. If that post had been the first one, I would have had no trouble apologizing. I <em>obviously</em> never meant to offend anyone, and I'd say sorry but I think what I did was trivial at most. I think mike hit this on the head. Had you made such a respectful post in the beginning, we could have avoided all of this vitriol and invective.</p>
<p>"I am familiar with the word, its similar to hermeneutics in the philosophy of Heidegger -------I assume you studied hard for the SAT verbal or torah, lol)"
Yeah, it's from Torah. There was this shirt that said "Jews for eisegesis" although personally i'm more for exegesis and not for eisegesis.</p>
<p>A big salaam to your friends and since I don't know any nice words in farsi (except for tadig mmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm i love tadig soo much it's unbelievable. i always have it at my friend's house, in rice form or pasta form, the night before an econ test) so I wish you and everyone else the absolute opposite of a "chack to sadet" (probably sounded out wrongly, but I think you understand what I'm trying to say!)
Peace!</p>
<p>just to clarify fountain... the trust fund baby comment was more related to what i had said earlier. LOL. i'm the spoiled one that led panda astray, obviously. but yeah i felt all uneasy when i read that quote bc i wondered if someone would take me down next.
anyhoo back on track, this summer is going to be so awesome for me. i think im spending a month or so at my beach house and then im coming back to manhattan for some intense partying with my friends. we'll be seniors then, and no one will mess with us :)</p>
<p>dude shorty im coming to manhatten in june and i know how totally anal you are about people finding out who you are, but at the very least you gotta tell me where the parties are at! what school do you go to again? is it trinity or st. regis or st. annes?</p>
<p>i never told you remember?? but yeah, i could tell you the 'scene' i suppose, lol. haha maybe i'll send you to the bronx or somewhere at midnight. that would be hilarious. i have some friends at trinity and st annes etc, but i dont go there. ahh, manhattan, cant get much better than that. hows la?</p>
<p>i don't remember you not telling me! man filmy, i'd give anyone goods odds you're like some fifty year old middle aged man! lol.
i know rich fogel at st. regis and peter dreyer at trinity.
LA parties are generally only fun if you know the people throwing them. then there's lots of drunken or lean (you might call being lean other things) love. otherwise it's just all these poeple you don't know and lots of cigarette smoke (getting numbers is easy. finding places to hook up, though, in crowded places like that is damn near impossible). i like kickbacks much better.
LA is also really huge so ****'s far away. but this sunday (no school mon.) is a pimps and hos party (my best friend wasn't invited and there's a really funny story about it but i dont think anyone cares). i was thinking of just wearing a speedo but then i realized i didnt have any speedos left (because i hurt my wrist and couldnt do h2o polo this year i gave me speedos to my friends who are still on the team). so what i'm going to wear are pants, wife beater, almost unbuttoned shirt and sweatband. i'm also going to draw pimp chest hair on my chest and am going to stuff dollar bills in my pants (i have a bet with a friend that i can get two other girls to put more money in my pants). that is, unless anyone else has any better ideas...</p>
<p>haha pimps and hos party. we had a white trash party a few weeks ago and like, were served cereal/ outta the box as an entree etc. YES! i am a 50 year old man. i wish, i would be so much more exciting. the ting with the upper east side is that its so small, if one person found out who i am it would quickly turn into "did you hear that [filmxoxo17] is on a porn website and like, is an escort? she had a baby last summer, its living at her chateau". seriously. so i just stick away from that stuff and remain anonymous.</p>