In my HS, math and science teaches had two differenr forms.For example tow 1 would have version1 and row 2 would have version2.
Even the problems in each versions are not ordered same.
Coming from a guy who cheated a lot in 10th grade, it worth it short term but is a long term mistake. When I had cheated on my AP bio final and AP test, both my grade and GPA skyrocketed. Soon after this realization, it had spread to me cheating in math (inputting answers/formula in my ti-89), to plagiarizing papers in English (Tailoring essays with words I commonly use (uncommon words create red flags when teacher reads essays) also making my essays turnitin.comable). Soon after I started taking ACT test and scored below 28, and I re took it and re took it and then I got the same score again. I realized from all of the cheating I done, I have barely learned any school material.
Don’t cheat because it catches up to you and makes you a different person, that you are only aware about. Like me, you may be getting away with cheating, but you will eventually mess up and lose.
@ikooldiscovery
wow…I never thought that someone would actually write about his cheating spree. I actualy thank you for that one because people who reads this thread will learn from your experience. I am also glad that you have learnt the consequence of cheating; its not just about punishment, but also about your personal learning
Reminds me of the direct T.V. Commericals
cheat on hw= don’t know material or 0
don’t know material= cheat on test or very bad
cheat on test= habitual cheating
habitual cheating= very bad= why are u at school?
don’t start cheating.
It was me that said that everyone must have cheated at some point in their life. My mistake, I am sorry for being so quick to make such a bold assumption. I also meant to say that I have learnt from my experience in cheating. I realized I never learned anything or payed attention in class. I would say, you are cheating yourself. I agree with @ikooldiscovery . I will rephrase what I said previously,
Cheating is often tempting due to all that GPA stress, and i am sure that most people have been burdened in regards to their grades at some point in their school career. Some see cheating as a quick getaway, but I have realized that when you are cheating you are cheating yourself. You are not learning anything, all you are doing is getting a few letter A’s printed on a piece of paper. But if you do the learning, the grades will come naturally. I do think the grading system is a really bad way to measure one’s learning, but there isn’t any other objective way.
Sorry again for that rash comment.
Personally, I don’t consider any thing calculator based to be cheating. If a graphic calculator is allowed, anything one can put on it is fair game.
Truthfully cheating in high school isn’t all that bad. It reflects how poor the educational system actually is.
- Students actually feel the need to cheat in order to get into a good college.
- Students are graded on meaningless things (completion grades, for example. Yeah it's totally okay to give a kid who knows 100% of the material a bad grade because he didn't feel he needed the extra practice in the homework). I've also seen grades in classes that have absolutely nothing to do with the actual subject (poems in science, for example).
- Too much emphasis is put on grades. Grades you are given when you're 14 will follow you potentially the rest of your life. This causes a lot of kids to just give up after one bad year of school.
I’ve never seen cheating occur on tests though, but I sure as hell have seen people cheat on homework. It’s one of those things everyone does. One person does the homework in a class, the rest of the class copies the homework off of him.
To those who would say it gives an unfair advantage in terms of college admissions, don’t question the people who are doing the reasonable thing (less effort for more reward), question the system that encourages it. Maybe if colleges didn’t expect a 4.0 average and 5 extracurricular activities there wouldn’t be so much pressure to cheat. And maybe if schools graded on actual content knowledge, some of these “trade n copy” cheating incidents wouldn’t occur.
A while back I did my homework without cheating like I always did and the next day I overheard all my classmates complaining about errors on the cheating site they all used. So I turned my homework in and visited the cheating site the after school and realized the errors were impossible to replicate by accident. And then the next day I handed all the worked out solutions from the cheating site to my teacher and she failed everyone in the class except me. Literally everyone.
Oh, and they all got one zero on one homework assignment. Just one. Nobody repeated the class or got suspended or expelled or even got detention. Just one zero on one homework assignment. In other words, schools aren’t serious about doing anything about cheating and ever since then I’ve used the cheating sites to check my work (after I’ve done it all on my own, of course).
I find kids who aren’t good students cheat to salvage whatever their grades are. I know AP kids sometimes will copy homework occasionally or help each other out with projects but for the most part, 95% of high honor roll kids get their grades on their own merit. I only have one academic class that’s not honors or AP because it’s a foreign language and a lot of students cheat in that class cheat which is frustrating because I get my grades on my own merit
In addition to my reflection #142, I noticed that almost everyone cheats.
“Hey how was the AP chem you took? Was it easy?” “Yeah, just know _______”
“I can’t find this answer” (googles answer)
I’m sure there are more instances of this kind of stuff that happens covertly. I’m not saying they’re all bad people (unless they are somehow inflicting pain on others), but it isn’t like it is that one guy looking over your shoulder for the HW answers is the only one.
The new question is: Which is worse overt or covert cheating?
@ikooldiscovery I totally agree. Everyone has to have asked that question about whether a test was hard.
I don’t care about cheating that pertains to homework. Homework is meant to help you refine the skills you were taught, and if a fellow student cheated, it’s their own prerogative to weaken that skill, thus I don’t care to know who cheats, or report those that I do know cheat. Tests and quizzes on the other hand…
Yeah, I feel like cheating on homework is no big deal. That being said, I typically do my homework because if I do my homework, I don’t need to study.
Cheating on tests and quizzes is a whole nother story though. Definitely never okay.
I’ve heard kids at our school’s Honors Geometry classes are allowed to use TI-84+ and some have put programs to find angles, sides, etc… only hurting themselves. When I took HonGeo in 8th grade at my MS we had to use a OGT (uh… standard middle school calculator) during every quiz, test, and it was a pain, but it should definitely pay off later.
@Anish14 At my school, most people use TI-84+ or TI-84, but usually teachers come by and actually clear the calculator’s memory before tests - for the reason that you stated (programs)
I think we have all cheated at least once
-cheers
Cheaters are still allowed to say that cheating is wrong. If we didn’t allow hypocrisy when we talk about ethics, we could never talk about ethics at all.
I’ve only ever cheated on homework and small tests (and not even that often). I don’t see cheating like that as a big deal or immoral, honestly. When I do, it’s not blindly. I ingrain the answer in my head. always connect the question and the answer, making sure I understand the content. Looking up the answer in Algebra 2 and copying it is going to hurt me, not help me. So I do the problem as best as I can and check it. If it’s wrong, I work backwards or change my strategy.
Is it wrong? Should I just work it out the long way? Yes, but I don’t care. The end result is the same: I learn the content. I would just rather do it the method that takes me the least amount of time. However many times you try to tell me it’s immoral, I just won’t see it.
That’s all I’m going to say.
It’s completely unethical. Yet anytime the opportunity to do it presents itself I will almost always take it.
The funny thing is, in my school, the smartest cheat. Haha. And they still go to top schools because our schools don’t report them. WTF Korea.