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<p>... an "applicant?"</p>

<p>Specifically, I'm wondering if anyone knows at what point in the pre-applicant, applicant process to USNA, an individual is "counted" among the applicants which total around 14K+ according to many publications, Princeton Review, etc.</p>

<p>Does an individual have to start or complete the application to become among the 14K applicants often noted? </p>

<p>Or are they considered applicant when they've completed pre app, app, or nomination request?</p>

<p>I'm just wondering at what point prospects are identified in this 14K pool since the process is so different than "secular" institutions.</p>

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<p>If i remember past readings correctly, it is the number or peliminary applications that are submitted.</p>

<p>Of those (usually around 14,000) only about 9k-10k get completed- meaning the entire application packet- so already the attrition begins. Lots get weeded out before they have ever left the dugout!</p>

<p>Wish I could recall where I read that- most likely Smallwood's book....</p>

<p>and not so "different" than you might suggest-
there are some schools that report (in their numbers) how many applications were requested- let alone returned completed!</p>

<p>what is that saying about quoting numbers and numbers lie???? (help me out fellow posters!!!)....</p>

<p>IMHO....forget about the numbers....
the focus should be not on "figuring out the system" but getting the best package together as you can.....you either will have it or you won't.....don't waste time and energy on things that don't count in the long run...</p>

<p>in the end, it won't matter if 14,000 applied or 1,400.....they will admitt 1240 or so (there is a cut off number for sure)....and you are either one of them or you are not.....</p>

<p>so EVERY EFFORT needs to be on making yourself one of those 1200-or-so candiates that will get that blue folder in the mail!</p>

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<p>Is the phrase you're looking for "There are lies, damned lies, and statistics"? That's from Mark Twain</p>

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<p>2010 ... and thanks.</p>

<p>we agree on your pt. to do your best.</p>

<p>I confess to being extremely doubtful that any institutions report apps requested ... at least those that are accredited. There are specfic standards in reporting this data in the higher ed scene. </p>

<p>And the #s are important ... in at least 2 respects:
USNA has a charge to fill the ranks. So there would be a huge difference ... obviously ... in the potential for appointment were there only 1,400 apps vs. 14,000.</p>

<p>and the 2nd place they're valuable is in discussions like these. </p>

<p>I assure you Admiral Rempt and his Admissions Dean are very concerned about how many apps there are.</p>

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<p>I could be wrong, but I recall that everyone who applies to the summer programs is considered an applicant.</p>

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And the #s are important ... in at least 2 respects:
USNA has a charge to fill the ranks. So there would be a huge difference ... obviously ... in the potential for appointment were there only 1,400 apps vs. 14,000.

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<p>hmmmm.....</p>

<p>Yes, in terms of odds....and probability.....</p>

<p>But no, in terms of YOU.... you will either have what they are looking for or you won't. If it is the latter, it doesn't matter if there are only 1201 kids competing for 1200 slots....you will be the one not in the pool!</p>

<p>In the end, the decision will be made based on what is in your "folder"....so make sure everything that matters is in there, and make sure it is the best it can be. Where you "match up" and "compare" in the rakings is not in your control......</p>

<p>so, IMHO, the effort should NOT be on trying to control something that is out of one's reach, but 100% focused on what is....grades, SATs, ECA's, CFA, interview, essay, BGO, recommendation relationships......</p>

<p>2 things are for certain.
1. there will always be more applicants than the academy can take
2. there will always be people higher on the "wanted" list than where you sit, just as there will be some lower down. </p>

<p>Motto: get yourself as high on that list as possible. </p>

<p>Best of LUck! Prayers and deepest respect go out for all the USNA admissions folk, who toil thousands of collective hours to ferrit out the best of the best each and every year! Honestly, I don't know how they do it- but they do!</p>