what counts as asian/pacific islander?

<p>"Solve your problem by filling in Filipino onto your applications. Most have an other please specify box. Don't put black/african american because that means you are of african descent. That's morally wrong and unfair to other applicants."</p>

<p>The problem is, I do not identify with my Fillipino heritage. As I have said numerous times, I soley identify with my black culture. </p>

<p>I mean if I told you to put down that you were Eskimo on your college applications, would you follow my order? Clearly not, as you have your own unique cultural and ethnic identifications. This is not the sort of thing you force down someones throat.</p>

<p>squiggle thats what I said, but I suppose if he wants to consider himself black, colleges won't say "no". there was a case where that white boy adopted by and lived with a black family for a long time marked black, and he was so convinced, and I don't think colleges argued.</p>

<p>so.... what kinda competition am i up against? stats plz? </p>

<p>just kidding. good luck anyway.</p>

<p>"squiggle thats what I said, but I suppose if he wants to consider himself black, colleges won't say "no". there was a case where that white boy adopted by a black family marked black, and he was so convinced, and I don't think colleges argued."</p>

<p>Exactly. </p>

<p>"lol so.... what kinda competition am i up against? stats plz? </p>

<p>just kidding. good luck anyway."</p>

<p>Well, I should be competitve when I apply to most of the top universities I am applying to. Thats all I will say for now. Hahah, if I get desperate enough, I might post my stats on a what are my chances thread!</p>

<p>haha, well i haven't succumbed to that yet, but if you're good enough to be competitive with other top university asian applicants, then you must be good. i read on here that the competition they're against is like a -50 on their sat I score. owch.</p>

<p>"and FOR THE LAST TIME, Fillipinos are not in ASIA"</p>

<p>urmnigga:
Filipinos are the people of the Philippines, a country in Asia, Southeast Asia to be precise. And it's "due respect" not "do respect".</p>

<p>"Filipinos are the people of the Philippines, a country in Asia, Southeast Asia to be precise. And it's "due respect" not "do respect"."</p>

<p>Meh, I don't want to sit here and argue geographical boundaries with you all day. Just know this, most Fillipinos do not consider themselves Asian.</p>

<p>I admire your correction of my spelling errors. =]</p>

<p>"And also, thanks for pointing out the slip of the finger. Scumbag."</p>

<p>urmnigga:
Getting a little bit testy, eh? Nice vocabulary.</p>

<p>"Getting a little bit testy, eh? Nice vocabulary."</p>

<p>RPDad, what are you talking about? Stop putting words into my mouth.</p>

<p>urmnigga:</p>

<p>I admire you for editing your reply #26, replacing the original line ""And also, thanks for pointing out the slip of the finger. Scumbag." to "I admire your correction of my spelling errors. =]". Very smart.</p>

<p>No, Rpdad, I edited my reply to add in the emoticon. Just so my post wouldn't be misconstrued.</p>

<p>"Meh, I don't want to sit here and argue geographical boundaries with you all day. Just know this, most Fillipinos do not consider themselves asian."</p>

<p>I don't understand the debate. Whether or not they consider themselves Asian, they're clearly Pacific Islanders, aren't they? Which, on any form I've ever seen, are grouped with Asians. Filipino's may not consider them Asian, but that's still the applicable group, isn't it?</p>

<p>Besides, the forms don't say "black," they say "African-American," and the Phillipines are pretty clearly not in Africa. The Phillipines are technically in Asia, and in the Pacific Islands by anyone's standards. I don't know how you can argue that someone who's Filipino should put something other than that.</p>

<p>urmnigga:</p>

<p>As I said you are smart ... and cultured.</p>

<p>So urmnigga do you actually have black blood or are you just a dark fillipino? Or perhaps you indeed are black like people from Papua New Guinea even though it is very far away from Africa?</p>

<p>well im 1/4 japanese, 3/4 white and look completely white and have identified as such. though, i took japanese immersion throughout elementary, middle and high school and grew up eating some japanese foods, knew some japanese family, etc. people in my family are also the only 1/4s ive ever met that look completely white. would i be justified in marking myself as mixed on college applications?</p>

<p>Ok. I am of Chinese ancestry, but I listen to a lot of Native American music. I shall just mark Native American on my application since I identify with their culture more than my Chinese culture. Some people tell me I am dark enough to be a Native American.</p>

<p>urmnigga, the problem starts when you start to use African-American to benefit you rather than what you truly identify with. Correct me if I am wrong, but it seems an odd coincidence to start labeling yourself as African-American when applying to college and when applying for scholarships, when it is most beneficial to be a URM. And also, the question does not ask for which culture you identify with. It asks your nationality, as in your blood and where you are from.</p>

<p>Thanks amc. That's my whole point. You can't just go:</p>

<p>"Hey I'm a rich asian guy but I like rap music so now I identify myself with black since you know I always have rap battles and stuff".</p>

<p>So you mean I can't put Native American just cause I went to an Indian casino once and because I listen to Native American music? No fair man.</p>

<p>"Meh, I don't want to sit here and argue geographical boundaries with you all day. Just know this, most Fillipinos do not consider themselves asian."</p>

<p>I don't understand the debate. Whether or not they consider themselves Asian, they're clearly Pacific Islanders, aren't they? Which, on any form I've ever seen, are grouped with Asians. Filipino's may not consider them Asian, but that's still the applicable group, isn't it?</p>

<p>Besides, the forms don't say "black," they say "African-American," and the Phillipines are pretty clearly not in Africa. The Phillipines are technically in Asia, and in the Pacific Islands by anyone's standards. I don't know how you can argue that someone who's Filipino should put something other than that."</p>

<p>bigmrpig, this sentence of yours is horrible, "Besides, the forms don't say "black", the say "African-American," and the Phillipines are pretty clearly not in Africa. By your logic, you are saying the only people that qualify as "black" are "African-Americans" who may not even have African ancestry (think some of the French colonies and Haiti)</p>

<p>"As I said you are smart ... and cultured."</p>

<p>No need to tell me what I already know. This is a big reason I will get admitted into top schools in lieu of the box I choose to mark off. I transcend the common expectations of my black heritage with unique passions and interests. </p>

<p>"So urmnigga do you actually have black blood or are you just a dark fillipino? Or perhaps you indeed are black like people from Papua New Guinea even though it is very far away from Africa?"</p>

<p>Unless medical fact has changed in the last twenty-four hours, I believe the blood of every person (no matter the ethnicity) is in fact, red.</p>

<p>"well im 1/4 japanese, 3/4 white and look completely white and have identified as such. though, i took japanese immersion throughout elementary, middle and high school and grew up eating some japanese foods, knew some japanese family, etc. people in my family are also the only 1/4s ive ever met that look completely white. would i be justified in marking myself as mixed on college applications?"</p>

<p>Yeah you are definitely mixed. Feel free to mark it. </p>

<p>"Ok. I am of Chinese ancestry, but I listen to a lot of Native American music. I shall just mark Native American on my application since I identify with their culture more than my Chinese culture. Some people tell me I am dark enough to be a Native American."</p>

<p>Way to mock the way I identify with my culture!</p>

<p>"urmnigga, the problem starts when you start to use African-American to benefit you rather than what you truly identify with. Correct me if I am wrong, but it seems an odd coincidence to start labeling yourself as African-American when applying to college and when applying for scholarships, when it is most beneficial to be a URM. And also, the question does not ask for which culture you identify with. It asks your nationality, as in your blood and where you are from."</p>

<p>You make it sound like I'm a no brained applicant riding the waves of AA. I'll tell you this, even if I didn't mark I was black, I am VERY competitive within the applicant pools to most elite schools. Yes, even HYPS. Though I'm probably only applying to YS.</p>

<p>"Thanks amc. That's my whole point. You can't just go:</p>

<p>"Hey I'm a rich asian guy but I like rap music so now I identify myself with black since you know I always have rap battles and stuff". "</p>

<p>I thought you said you were responding to me anymore? Clearly, the example you provide is so extreme that it is not possible. Please reread my case carefully. I am often mistaken for being black, almost on a daily basis! </p>

<p>"So you mean I can't put Native American just cause I went to an Indian casino once and because I listen to Native American music? No fair man."</p>

<p>More mockery. I love it.</p>

<p>Actually, I'd like to ask how long you've been living in the States? If your father grew up in the States, and so did you, I don't see how you can speak for the Filipinoes. ..however you spell that lol. From where I live, we've got plenty of Filipinoes coming here for jobs and I've never, ever heard any identify themself as someone other than a Philipino.</p>

<p>But yes I'd agree with others that it's a bit suspicious for you to mark yourself as a URM during college admissions. I'm Asian yet have been immersed in western culture since day one, do I count as white then? I'm just saying, if you mark yourself as African American, people will expect you to be black. Not just in terms of skin color. Besides, you might give a wrong impression to an interviewer if you put yourself down as black but when he asks you where your parents are from, you say Philipine.</p>

<p>But yes I'd say you're a Pacific Islander. =)</p>