what do you think, EA for UChicago and EE for Wellesley?

Colleges & Universities A-Z University of Chicago ✅
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<p>since summer break started, i've been on CC practically non-stop, and I think i'm starting to really get a plan for next fall: apply EA for Uchicago and EE (early evaluation) for Wellesley. A fellow CCer suggested that plan to me actually, and it sounds like a great idea. I know these "chance threads" get annoying at times, but just give me a quick look? please? lol...</p>

<p>Korean, Female, public high school in Tennessee, class of 2008</p>

<p>Stats:
SATs: 2180 (680 reading, 770 math, 730 writing)
PSATs: 217 (65 reading, 80 math, 72 writing)
ACT: 34
GPA: 3.75 (huge upward trend from freshman year)
SAT II: Math II 780</p>

<p>I've had very challenging course loads both sophmore and junior year. This year, I actually took an all AP schedule of Physics B, Latin Lit., Calculus BC, European History, and Language and Comp. Sophmore year, I took AP US History and AP Biology. Next year, I will only have two AP classes (Latin Vergil (so then I will have 4 years of a foreign language) and Literature and Comp.) but the rest of my classes will be at a nearby college, since my high school does not offer multivariable calculus or microbiology. </p>

<p>EC's:
Junior States of America (chapter founder and president)
National Forensics League (chapter President)
Key Club (chapter president)
Mock Trial (team captain)
Speech and Debate (vice president)
Junior Classical League (Secretary)
National Honor Society member
Clarksville's Youth Leadership member (it's pretty selective and i got in this year..)
Tennessee's Governor's School of Engineering (As a result, I'll have a recommendation from the Dean of Admissions at University of Tennessee)
300+ hours of volunteer work at Good Samaritan’s Clinic of Clarksville
Violin teacher (I get paid, it's not volunteer work) for all levels of Suzuki
Vanderbilt's Curb Symphony Orchestra (violin)
Austin Peay State University's Symphony Orchestra (violin)</p>

<p>I actually don't have a long list of EC's compared to other people's lists on CC. I'm really focused in all my clubs and I probably spend too much time fulfilling my leadership roles as Presidents and VPs. </p>

<p>With that said, I'm a strong writer as long as I have time to rewrite and revise several times. My SAT score is okay as a 2180, but I did retake them this June and I'm hoping for a better OVERALL scorel; I might've dropped a little in math and writing, but i'm confident my reading score went up tremendously. My ACT score is solid and I have no intention of retaking it. So, chances? for EA U of Chicago??</p>

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<p>your course load is exceptional, your ACT score is high, your GPA is high considering the classes that you take, and as far as I can tell you'll have at least one very good supplementary recommendation. You've also done lots of volunteering and you have musical talent. I imagine you'll be able to write very good essays. I think you'll get in.</p>

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<p>If this past year is any indication, applying EA makes a lot of sense. The EA admit rate was about 40%, whereas the RD admit rate was about 26%.</p>

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<p>thanks for the statistic on EA idad, what do you think my chances are though?</p>

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<p>See my post in the other Ridiculously-Bright Ridiculously-Well-Rounded Girl thread.</p>

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<p>I would say EA to chicago. If I were you, I'd post this in another forum, not the one specifically for Chicago, as you may get skewed answers.</p>

<p>to idad- is the difference really that big? I know that the admit rate was like 38%, and I don't know how it can be so high if RD was 26%.</p>

<p>good luck, and your resume looks very strong.</p>

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<p>If I were you, I would be confident in what I've accomplished and now spend the rest of that time making sure that I'm confident on my college choices. Colleges see smart kids all the time, and while they love having a smart and accomplished student body, they also want one with some kind of knowledge of self, an idea of what's what, and a student body they know will be engaged in the classroom and seek out opportunities to talk to professors and challenged themselves, specifically at a school like Chicago.</p>

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<p>CNI: The overall admit rate was just under 35% this year. But you're right -- idad's numbers don't make sense.</p>

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<p>The numbers came from the Maroon.

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The College saw a rise in the number of Early Action applications to 3,068—an increase of 11 percent from last year. Of those applicants, 1,385, or 40 percent of those who applied early, were accepted. Only 26 percent of those who applied regular decision, along with those who had been deferred from early decision, were given offers to attend the U of C.

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<p>Actually, if one includes those who were deferred EA and later admitted, those admitted from the EA pool rises, and those admitted from the RD pool declines.</p>

<p><a href="http://maroon.uchicago.edu/online_edition/news/2007/04/06/college-acceptance-rate-falls/%5B/url%5D"&gt;http://maroon.uchicago.edu/online_edition/news/2007/04/06/college-acceptance-rate-falls/&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p>

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<p>
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thanks for the statistic on EA idad, what do you think my chances are though?

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What JHS said in post #5.</p>

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<p>Unfortunately, sourcing something in the Maroon does not guarantee that it is accurate, or even logical.</p>

<p>I did the math, and the Maroon numbers could work, but only if Chicago actually rejected fewer than 400 applications out of over 3,000 (<13%) at the EA stage. Maybe. Then, assuming the deferred EA students were admitted at almost the same rate as other applications in the RD pool, the actual acceptance rate on EA applications was 50% or more. Or, if that assumption isn't true, the real acceptance rate on RD applications was closer to 30-33%. </p>

<p>Anyway, the point remains that it looks like there's some pretty significant benefit to applying EA. Maybe the acceptance rate is double compared to RD apps, maybe it's only 33% higher, maybe it's somewhere in between.</p>

<p>If I were guessing, though, I would guess that the real difference is toward the smaller end of that range, for the following reason: Most schools say that their EA/ED pool is stronger than their RD pool, because only the stronger students have it together to submit an application early. But my instinct is that for Chicago that may not be true, because the one thing we know for sure about all Chicago EA applicants is that they didn't apply SCEA to Harvard, Yale, or Stanford (or ED to Brown). So over 15,000 pretty strong, academically inclined kids were forbidden to apply to Chicago EA, and about 13,000 of them didn't get EA/ED at their first-choice school. How many of those kids applied RD to Chicago? 10%? 20%? Probably not 20%, but probably enough to represent a meaningful portion of the RD application pool -- and a pretty darn strong portion, too.</p>

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<p>Chicago admits just over 3000 students a year. If 3068 applied EA, and 40% were accepted, that means about 1227 were accepted EA. About 10,048 total applied, so that leaves about 7000 applying RD. At 26%, that means roughly 1820 were accepted RD. 1227 + 1820 =3047. Looks like the numbers work to me.</p>

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<p>Except it accepted 3,628 students last year, out of 10,400 applicants.</p>

<p>EA: 3,068 applications, 1,385 acceptances (45% being "about 40%", apparently). Reading the story carefully, that may include deferred EA applications accepted RD, but it's hard to tell. As I show below, it has to.</p>

<p>RD: That leaves 2,243 acceptances from 7,340 RD applications (maybe plus deferred EA applications). If the pool was limited to the RD applications, the number is well over 30%, so that seems wrong. But it turns out to be right.</p>

<p>I think I've figured out how the numbers work: </p>

<p>If you assume the reported 40% number was right (1,227 EA acceptances), and that every EA application not accepted was deferred to RD, that would mean that an additional 2,401 acceptances came in the RD round from a pool of 9,161 applications (1,821 deferred EA applications plus 7,340 RD applications). And, guess what? That's 26.21%. (I note that these numbers make intuitive sense, too, since lots of universities seem to aim at handing out about a third of their acceptances at the EA/ED stage.)</p>

<p>Bottom line -- It looks like Chicago accepted 45% of its EA applications (either at EA or RD) and 30.5% of its RD applications. It got a 26% RD acceptance rate by treating all non-accepted EA applications as deferred, and then accepting only a relatively small number of them. If it in fact rejected anyone at the EA stage (and I think it did), it is cooking the books a little. And it also looks like there is a significant advantage to applying EA.</p>

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<p>I just looked at the CC EA results thread from this year, and there were at least some outright rejections. Not many, but then the total reported CC results, with an acceptance rate of about 77%, were clearly not representative of the total pool.</p>

<p>So . . . that 26% number is a little artificially low.</p>

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<p>The point remains. It looks like one has a much better chance of being admitted EA than RD.</p>

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<p>which is why i'm totallly going Chicago EA</p>

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<p>I think we have to keep in mind that the Chicago EA is for students who express particular interest in the school, and that the school accepts more students who express interest in it by applying early should not be surprising. I don't think it will give you much of a "boost" if you would not be able to get in RN.</p>

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<p>Also, I believe Harvard and some other peer schools are discontinuing SCEA or ED for next year, which may mean many more EA applications for U of C. The EA pool may be exceptionally strong.</p>

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<p>idad, you're right in thinking that U of C will be stronger, but I don't think that the EA pool will get significantly tougher. I think most of the EA applicants who were originally going to do SCEA to Harvard will end up doing it to Yale or Stanford. And, isn't it just Harvard and Princeton (among the top schools) that got rid of their early admissions?</p>

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<p>I think it's right that Yale and Stanford will be swamped with additional SCEA apps -- they will probably go up over 50%, given the Harvard/Princeton effect, and the additional publicity that has caused. But some of the Harvard/Princeton folks will go with other approaches, and I suspect that places like Chicago and Georgetown will see a noticeable bump in EA applications, too.</p>