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<p>Any entity is still constrained by reality. If something is indeterminate, it cannot be known specifically. An all-knowing entity would know that it is indeterminate; an entity with limited knowledge may not.</p>
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<p>Any entity is still constrained by reality. If something is indeterminate, it cannot be known specifically. An all-knowing entity would know that it is indeterminate; an entity with limited knowledge may not.</p>
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If there is a supreme being, it follows that there would be some things concerning this being that we would not be able to understand (hence the supreme in supreme being).
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I’m not advocating one side or the other but one of the principles behind religion is faith. This means that even if the God exists you cannot explain all things concerning him, that’s why faith is required.</p>
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<p>Omniscient - having complete or unlimited knowledge, awareness, or understanding</p>
<p>God is omniscient.
Therefore, he cannot possess false knowledge.
Free will is the ability to perform any action, without it being determined by anyone or anything else, and if the person performing the action could have chosen another action. </p>
<p>We can agree on that, correct?</p>
<p>Suppose god knows on Monday I will wash my car on Friday.
If I were to freely watch TV instead of washing my car, god would have possessed false knowledge on Monday. Therefore, he was not omniscient on Monday.</p>
<p>If choices must follow from god’s foreknowledge, then free will is an illusion. If man can freely choose and deviate from god’s plan, then god is not omniscient.</p>
<p>^I think I already explained my thoughts on this as fully as I can. </p>
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<p>That’s a sloppy definition of omniscience. It means having complete knowledge of everything that is. Something that is omniscient cannot know something that doesn’t exist.</p>
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<p>False supposition.</p>
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<p>It is the definition to omniscient. [omniscient</a> definition | Dictionary.com](<a href=“http://dictionary.reference.com/browse/omniscient]omniscient”>OMNISCIENT Definition & Meaning | Dictionary.com)</p>
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<p>How so?</p>
<p>Just because it says that in Dictionary.com doesn’t make it completely precise.</p>
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<p>If God is omniscient, God doesn’t know whether you will wash your car in 4 days. God would know whether you plan to, but not whether you will follow through.</p>
<p>Nothing. You just die.</p>
<p>I am in no rush to find out; however, I believe that my soul will go to Heaven. :)</p>
<p>I know what you’re thinking… typical Christian. But idc. lol.</p>
<p>Assuming your consciousness goes on is pure arrogance. I believe your life force continues, though completely unrecognizable from your present state. Embrace it! Don’t be afraid! It’s as natural as being born.</p>
<p>hmm according to my religion and personal beliefs I think I’ll re-incarnate, if i haven’t (for the seventh time). My soul will transcend into another living creature and thus i shall be reborn. if this is my seventh life god will decide if did good karma so i could be sent off to that cloudy, heavenly place up there ;] otherwise, i’ll burn in hell. simple =D</p>
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<p>If god is omniscient, he knows everything. He knows what I will do. Therefore, I have no free will.</p>
<p>Or is god not omniscient?</p>
<p>Sigh</p>
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<p>No, because the future doesn’t exist. It will exist when it is the present then past, but right now it is not in existence thus it cannot be known.</p>
<p>Psh, everyone knows quantum physics trumps free will.</p>
<p>If you know the quantum wavefunction for every particle in the universe at this moment, then Schrodinger’s equation tells you how the wavefunction was or will be at any other moment you care to specify - it’s as fully deterministic as it’s cousinly component in classical physics. </p>
<p>Of course, physicists would first need to conclude that this equation (and all it’s forms) is all there is to quantum mechanics. They would also have to prove that observation does NOT play an integral role in quantum mechanics. </p>
<p>Classical logic doesn’t play a helpful role in arguments like this. The simple fact that we haven’t yet observed God, or proved God’s existence using conventional science, is enough to nullify any questions grounded on logic. If we don’t even know if He exists, there is no point in arguing any further details. It is a question of personal belief, and as such, isn’t up for debate. Or rather, it makes debates like this purposeless.</p>
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I know that all matter is radiating from a point that existed about 14 billion years ago. I don’t know enough physics to claim to understand what happened at that point (and neither do you, unless you go to a really crazy high school).</p>
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<p>The future does exist. </p>
<p>But that’s irrelevant, because you’re using your own definition of omniscience. It is not “knowing everything that exists.” </p>
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1 : having infinite awareness, understanding, and insight<br>
2 : possessed of universal or complete knowledge</p>
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Knowing and understanding all things</p>
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Having total knowledge</p>
<p>The future only exists if you assume that it is preordained. Otherwise it is not defined.</p>
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<p>It’s your belief that it does. </p>
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None of those definitions contradict with the idea ThisCouldBeHeavn expressed. Things that don’t exist simply aren’t a part of universal, complete, infinite, whatever knowledge or awareness. Because they don’t exist. If one “know[s] and understand[s] all things” one doesn’t understand “things” that don’t exist, because they aren’t things. They’re nothings.</p>
<p>I hate that religion is a part of all this but then again why wouldn’t it.</p>
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<p>It’s also the belief of many physicists that it does. Einstein’s work on special relativity proves that observers moving relative to each other have different conceptions of what exists at a given moment. Which means that someone’s “future” is another person’s “present.” These small differences are accentuated over large lengths of space, or great differences in speed.</p>