<p>A girl at my school wants to start one. She has a youth pastor that is willing to show up during lunch classes so it doesn't affect after school ECs. They plan on starting the club with bible verses and how it impacts you today and all that jazz. I'm wondering what you have to say because I'm against it.</p>
<p>Just don’t join the club then…</p>
<p>I don’t think there should be a club to begin with…</p>
<p>The high school I went to had a club with an identical set up (youth pastor during lunch in an empty classroom). I wasn’t in it, but a lot of students were.</p>
<p>Why do you have a problem with it? There are schools with Christian clubs, Jewish clubs, Muslim clubs, what have you. My school had a Republican club and a Democrat club, it didn’t mean that they supported either. If enough students want the club, what harm? It isn’t hurting you to have some kids at your school in a religious club.</p>
<p>Be aware, there will be an athiest in the back who comes for the sole of heckling everyone tthere and making offensive remarks every 5 minutes</p>
<p>Freedom of speech. As long as the school is willing to let a club of any religion or denomination start up (which, by law, they must), then the girl has a full right to do so regardless of whether or not you approve.</p>
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<p>Why not? Just don’t join it and let our people do whatever they want.</p>
<p>There are four Christian-based clubs at my school (Fellowship of Christian Athletes, a mission group for the “lost” souls of the metropolitan area, Bible study, and a Christian club that goes to hospitals to support people w/ cancer). </p>
<p>I just don’t join them, as a secular, non-practicing Muslim. When I moved here, I was a bit surprised with the emphasis on religion among my peers, but it’s whatever. As long as they’re happy and not hating on me, I’m cool with it lol</p>
<p>Lawl, what’s to disapprove about?</p>
<p>@Deziky Exactly.</p>
<p>There are several religion-based clubs at my school (something Christianity-related, Jewish Student Assoc., and a Muslim student group).</p>
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I agree, I don’t really see what’s wrong with a religiously based club. At my HS, they have a Christian Fellowship. If you’re not interested, you don’t have to join. I didn’t realize the fact that people are religious could offend people.</p>
<p>Who cares? As long as the school doesn’t discriminate, and allows any religion to establish a club if they want…then let them. It doesn’t bother me. If you’re not a part of that religion, or you are and aren’t interested in a religious club…don’t join.</p>
<p>Really can’t see the problem with it even as a atheist. In fact, I disagree with clubs being forced to let nonbelievers join. If a club wants to be exclusive let them. Private schools I can understand but state schools should allow exclusivity. What’s the point of a club if it’s open?</p>
<p>The reason I don’t want it in is because 1) I’m an atheist and don’t want my bible toting friend to convert the school( were friends and she talks about god more than necessary and would definitely try it if she could) 2) I don’t want there to be an abortion topic. I have a church in my town that has a very vivid display of what they think of it. And 3) I don’t want to deal with religion in school. It will be talked about more than often if it is accepted and I don’t feel like hearing about god and Jesus all the time. Which will happen.</p>
<p>They have the right to make the club as long as it’s optional to join… all for it</p>
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You’re an atheist. You have that right. They’re religious. They have that right. If they want a club to talk about their religion and convert people (without school support), then that’s fine. Start up an atheist club if you want.</p>
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You don’t want a club you won’t attend to talk about a side of a issue you don’t agree with? You won’t be in the club, why do you care what they talk about? Again, you could start a pro-choice club if you felt like it and had enough people.</p>
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It’s freedom of religion, not freedom from religion. Every time they talk to you about God and Jesus, you could talk to them about atheism if you feel like it.</p>
<p>The whole separation of church and state IS freedom from religion.</p>
<p>And also instead of me having to make 3 newer clubs to combat one club, it would be easier if the club didn’t exist.</p>
<p>Wrong. The separation of church and state is not about freedom from religion. I find it hard to believe that 18th century colonists wrote that into our nation’s documents with a spirit of abolishing religion. I don’t want to go all “Christian forefathers!” on you but most of these men were religious people. They wrote separation of church and state to distinguish themselves from and avoid the possibility of theocracy or otherwise government-instituted religion which they had run from in Britain. </p>
<p>Freedom of religion is about allowing EVERYONE to choose and practice their religion freely. Not only does that mean that you have the right to do so, but also that you have the DUTY to allow others to do so as well. Nobody said it was going to be easy or that you were going to like it, and certainly you’d be violating that if everyone had to comply to your preferences and say only what you wanted to hear. </p>
<p>Of course your life would seem easier if the club didn’t exist. Everything would be all hunky-dory in Dan2014-land. But what this has come to is not the separation of church and state; clearly, as long as the school is allowing other religious/anti-religious/whatever clubs to form, the state isn’t interfering at all. (The school and its employees are the lowest level of the state, not the students.) This is coming down to freedom of religion. In order for everyone to receive the same benefits from this right (which, by the way, is the only just way to have it), we have to be willing to work with and accept other people. You don’t have to agree with them, and you can argue with them if you want, but you have to allow and respect their right to exist and believe what they want.</p>
<p>Hah! Try going to a Catholic school. Church is held every Wednesday and prayer every morning and afternoon. </p>
<p>Even my physics teacher, who by the way is one of the most intelligent people I’ve ever met, is a practicing religious. </p>
<p>You want to complain about a measly religious “club” that probably won’t even last longer than its founder’s tenure? My school’s been here since the civil war, bro. If I try and escape, they’ll drop a crusade on my azz. Puh-leeeeze.</p>