<p>UC Riverside, UC Santa barbara, San Diego state, UCLA, UC LongBeach
We are looking at these criteria-
Acceptance percentage into Medical School
Financial Aid
Generous grading system? ( I read in this forum that is important in being accepted in Medical school)</p>
<p>We are considering 3-4 out of state schools
Boston College
Northeastern
North Carolina
If all the schools accept her , which would be number one?</p>
<p>Long Beach is not a UC…it’s a Cal State. I don’t think either Cal State would have a high acceptance rate to med school. </p>
<p>Do you know if you qualify for the need-based aid that you need? </p>
<p>Do you know how much you can pay? </p>
<p>Do you know how much you’d be expected to pay. If not, run some FA calculators, but be aware that many schools can’t meet need.</p>
<p>Often, schools will expect you to pay for more than you feel you can afford to pay.</p>
<p>I don’t think Northeastern is known for good aid. </p>
<p>I don’t see any financial safety schools on your list. Those would be schools that you know FOR SURE that you have ALL costs covered with ASSURED grants/scholarships, small student loans, and/or family funds.</p>
<p>UNC gives good aid, but you have to qualify …and it does use CSS Profile.</p>
<p>What are your D’s stats? (GPA, ACT or SAT /1400 and /2400) If she has strong stats, she needs to apply to a couple of schools where she’d get good merit scholarships.</p>
<p>Since you need aid, it’s hard to say which would be #1. BC might be…or UNC.</p>
<p>Our daughter has 1500 sat score, 3.76 gpa, we do not qualify for need scholarships, she is puerto rican on my husbands side, she won a lot of community service awards, and volunteers as president of junior volunteer program, secretary of Leo club, went as Ambassador to high school for summer in Australia. We applied to five state universities and four universities in California. We figure she will try for merit as scholarships. She retook sat score hoping she improved her score with help of tutor.</p>
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<p>Institutional or outside? I know NEU used to have some large merit scholarships (some specifically for URMs), but don’t know if your D would be in the running for those or not. UNC-CH has the Pogue, but it is very competitive. </p>
<p>Is she a NHRP scholar? See the Hispanic Students forum for lots of information about scholarships, fly-ins, etc.</p>
<p>If it’s a 1500 new score that is far below what would be needed for OOS admission to UNC, even with URM status. OOS admits generally have Ivy or near worthy stats and often many who are accepted to some Ivies and other elite privates are not admitted to UNC.</p>
<p>OOS enrollment is capped by state law at 18% (including recruited athletes) which leaves barely 600 admission slots for non athletes with 18,000 plus OOS applicants.</p>
<p>If a 1500 old score, she is highly competitive but essays are a VERY important component of UNC admission so make sure she does not take them lightly.</p>
<p>^^I just assumed the 1500 was CR+M, don’t know why, I just did :D:</p>
<p>Is our schools choices make sense ?
and is there another university or college we should consider?</p>
<p>^ I guess it is because, when our kids were applying, the ‘writing’ SAT sub-score did not count for most colleges. It may have been changed since then.</p>
<p>^Yes mcat2, and in the prehistoric days before Score Choice as well :)!</p>
<p>Cooljoe, is the 1500 SAT for all three sections or just CR+M? Makes a lot of difference, for both admissions and merit.</p>
<p>All three sections, however , in a few days her new score will be coming out and we hoping there is an increase</p>
<p>I think it’s a little premature to assess your Ds schools since she will get a new SAT score soon. However, for the schools she’s applied to, she will need to raise it significantly to have reasonable chances for acceptance at most of them.</p>
<p>It won’t impact the CA public schools, but it does help that she’s part PR for the privates. However, the amount of boost she will get depends on many factors, if you look at some of the threads on the Hispanic Students forum, you will see this discussed.</p>
<p>My guess is that Carolina is not worth the app fee. One needs Ivy-level stats from OOS.</p>
<p>The colleges with the best need-based aid are all highly selective, and will require a much higher test score, even for a URM.</p>
<p>Boston College has good, but not great finaid. BC does meet full need, as it defines it. BC is big on community service and is trying to improve its diversity, so it’s worth an app. But, your D’s test scores are really low for BC, which has a mid-quartile range of 1900-2100. </p>
<p>UCs have poor financial aid. Northeastern does not meet full need, so without a merit scholarship, it will be mighty expensive. NEU’s 25th % SAT is ~1800, so a merit scholly is highly unlikely without much higher scores.</p>
<p>I hear you. Keep your fingers crossed, we hired one of those SAT’s tutoring and paid close to 1K and they guarantee 200 points or your tutoring is free. Lets see.</p>
<p>Cooljoe,</p>
<p>I’m afraid she’s going to need more than 200 additional pts to even be in contention for several of those schools, take a look at the 25:75 SAT scores that bluebayou provided. And that’s for admission, the standard for merit is substantially higher.</p>
<p>Has she talked to her HS GC about her school list?</p>
<p>Since you don’t qualify for need-based aid, then you need to determine how much you’re willing to pay each year.</p>
<p>Your budget will likely determine where your D will end up attending. How much are your willing to spend each year?</p>
<p>If your D’s test scores increase substantially (about 500+ points), then her merit chances will be much better. Many schools only use the M+CR sections of the SAT to determine merit scholarships and often a 1300+ M+CR is needed for meaningful merit scholarships from the schools that give them.</p>
<p>Number one is the one that she likes the most. She has to have her list in priority sequence. However, my D. ended up at her #2, and is very happy that she did. She is a Med. Student at her original #1 and realized what a special place her UG was for her, perfect match. So, the goal is to match student personality and wide range of interests (not just medicine, all interests) to certain UG. Being comfy at place will produce great results, misery will not.</p>
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<p>Certainly true of an applicant who has the stats/profile to be competitive. OP states that 1500 is all three scores. Even with a 200 point increase she will not be competitive for OOS admission to UNC, instate to UCLA, or even BC for that matter.</p>
<p>OP please let is know her new scores, total and broken out, and we can offer better advice/assistance.</p>
<p>OP can pursue whatever they want, but school ranking is not the way to go at all especially to UG. It will backfire badly if school is not a good match to kid’s personality adn wide range of interests. This type of research is superficial, what works for one, will not work for another, it has to be decided on a personal basis. But nobody needs to listen to this, they have their own way.</p>
<p>*Number one is the one that she likes the most. *</p>
<p>Yes and no. Until the student has new and much better scores, it won’t help to “like” many of these schools too much as they won’t likely be feasible. </p>
<p>Once she has her new scores, THEN a workable list can be made of reaches, matches, and safeties…which also include consideration of the family’s financial situation…and schools that she likes. It seems like the current list was made purely from a pre-med stand-point without much regard for the student’s actual test scores or merit likelihood.</p>
<p>I agree that looking at rankings can backfire. Putting a student with good but not top stats in a school with nearly all high-stats kids is a recipe for a lower GPA.</p>
<p>^Only if student considers ranking which IMO is NOT correct way to go at all. And I did not mean GPA when I said “backfire”. Yes, GPA will be lower not because of high-stats kids but because of misery, feeling out of place, not good feeling at all to have while rying to adjust to new life, new responsibilities. UG choices should NOT be based on GPA/scores, it shoud be based on good match to student personality and wide range or interests. Visiting, talking to current students, get a feel of campus, participate in few events… matching to GPA/score will not accomplish this analysis. I am talking from experience, but some might just go for the name, which is OK, they just have to psych themselves to accept potential of feeling miserable, which may not happen, they just might get lucky.</p>