<p>Not saying I agree or disagree with Shrink or with laContra, but I will say this:
Of those I have come across who believe in God:
Some see everything we see, do, get, lose, win, successes, failures, etc., as God’s plan for us. Everything good is often seen as God’s hand, anything bad is the devil’s influence.
Others see God’s plan as merely laying out opportunities for us and then to see what we choose.</p>
<p>Neo-Calvinism v. Arminianism (sorry, I’m a theology professor)</p>
<p>^Doesn’t this analogy cast LaContra as the Puritan in the debate? Oh, the irony! :)</p>
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Some would see this as Shrink having wandered from the flock and found her way back to the flock with the help of her H and god or whomever. Your god may differ. :)</p>
<p>This turned into a, Is there a God debate? I don’t think its good idea to question what people believe is important to them. Shrinkrap has a right to feel that her belief in God got her through difficult times. Heck, whats so bad about that? I wish some people I knew got through difficult times because God was helping them through. Its just not fair to criticize peoples religious views and there seemed to be nothing extreme in what Shrink said.</p>
<p>When I was in college, I belonged to College Democrats. That was a good party.</p>
<p>To return to the subject of drinking, after the 1980 election, I drank a fair amount, to kill the pain.</p>
<p>^At my all-business college in 1984, the height of the Reagan era, we didn’t even realize there was another party. There was a rumor that someone voted for Mondale, but it was never confirmed.</p>
<p>Can’t say I was a big partier. We music geeks were too busy practicing. No, really. I didn’t even like the taste of beer and I sure couldn’t function the next day hung over. </p>
<p>Edit: And I couldn’t stand loud music, either! This is why I still have excellent hearing, I believe.</p>
<p>I do remember one party we went to where kids were doing lines…first time I’d ever seen this. And we got a ride home from a guy who was definitely high. That was so stupid and now I feel lucky we survived.</p>
<p>So I hope my kids are at least as smart and lucky as I am. So far, I believe that is true. Proud of my little geeks.</p>
<p>Wow! I’m going to have to go back and see what I wrote! I’m not really a religious person. My point was, when I look back on all the risks I took, all the near-whatever experiences, I think it a near miracle that things turned out so well. </p>
<p>Miracle, God, luck, evolution, whatever. There was no praying, no going to church, nothing like that. My husband has been to church maybe three times in the 25 years we’ve known each other. It’s just that when I look back, I think it had to be SOMETHING, because I was too fortunate to call it chance. I didn’t even really have “tough times”. That’s what is so amazing!</p>
<p>I work with a lot of folks that weren’t nearly as fortunate, and everyday I say “there but for the grace of God”.</p>
<p>And for the record, I never said anything about DRINKING…Smile.</p>
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<p>Party for me means drink, fight and destroy ****.</p>
<p>Shrinkrap–I was thinking Black Eyed Peas, “Tonight’s Gonna Be a Good Night”</p>
<p>S’s college won a big football game on Sat. Much partying ensued. The frat boys who live across the street from him burned a couch out in the street. Just one more way to party. A cop came but said he had lots of other stuff to do and since it looked like they had it under control, he took off. Party on dude.</p>
<p>“Dude, where’s the couch.”</p>
<p>“Party casualty.”</p>
<p>“Oh.”</p>