<p>oh my god you’re like a younger necrophiliac.</p>
<p>@ChoklitRain:
what would you consider to be the top three characteristics wharton seek in matched applicants? thxthx</p>
<p>1) gpa/SAT should be competitive. wharton is more fit based than HYP for sure, but they’re not going to give you a pass on poor stats. 3.7/2100 will generally not cut it. 2300+/4.0 is more along the lines of what they’re seeking in unhooked applicants from competitive regions. </p>
<p>2) math ability. take AP Calc at some point during high school. do well on Math 2, SAT Math, the Calc AP test if applicable, and in math classes. </p>
<p>3) leadership ability. your activities, counselor rec, two teacher recs, and 2-3 essays should present you as someone with drive and personality who’s worth respecting/admiring/following</p>
<p>People, please! I actually go to Penn now… You really do not need that much math experience in Wharton. That has to be one of the biggest lies on CC. I can tell you that pretty much all College/Wharton/Engineering kids have about the same level of math to pass (more or less, Calc AB as a senior). Of the 20+ kids I <em>actually</em> know in Wharton, only one of them was taking 114. The rest had not taken that much math and were in 104 (just about where you are supposed to be in the College or Wharton if you have taken Calc AB in high school). </p>
<p>Leadership ability is important. Business ability is important. Stats and GPA are definitely not as important as those two things for Wharton. </p>
<p>As for recruits…the only recruits I know are in Wharton because there is a lot less work to do in general than the College or Engineering. In the College, you really can’t skip a weekend of reading of Plato or political science…but you can skip a meeting to go to your away game. This is the honest truth-even my friends in Wharton have basically said the same thing to me.</p>
<p>Anyway, good luck you guys! Just take pre-freshman with a grain of salt…</p>
<p>@ChoklitRain </p>
<p>Thank you soso much for the well organized and thoughtout answer!!
I see your points. Could you provide a little opinion on my case?</p>
<p>I am wishing to transfer in in the junior year.
my high school year wasn’t outstanding but satisfactory with 1st tier academic records and great extra curricula But in short it woundn;t be considered competitive since I had 1570 on SAT 1 and <800 chinese, 670 math 2, 650 physics> on SAT2
But after I entered my current college I retook the sat 1 and had 1990 (550, 800, 640) btw I am international student and hence I had to make up my terrible english with toefl test which I scored satisfactorily.
But apart from SAT and high school materials, I have 3.9 gpa with what I consider most challenging coure schedules for the past 3 semesters and the one to come in spring.
I was wondering that where do I stand in this competition? not qualified? average? I am just curious although i know in the last round unique distinctions will be the only thing that stand out</p>
<p>@Anon<em>Person</em>1</p>
<p>Thank you! I think most of us got it.
how would you demonstrate leadeership and business ability in applications?</p>
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<p>omg I have children!</p>
<p>And math competence is expected. It may not be 800 Math IIc and 5 Calc BC, but if you’re not in AP calc, you’re swimming up the waterfall.</p>
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<p>My dad went to Wharton(class of '82) and has been involved with the school for a long time, and those are the three things he told me to focus on last year after talking to his contact in admissions. I trust my dad’s info more than your anecdotes about the people you know in Wharton. They’re not taking 114 firstly because it’s not necessary, and secondly because they’re protecting their grade point averages. I’m not going to take 114 either. However, not taking 114 doesn’t mean those kids didn’t demonstrate above average or better math ability on their apps.</p>
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<p>A college 3.9 is great. The 4.0 expectation is only for a certain segment of high school applicants. As a junior transfer, I don’t believe that your high school record or SATs would be considered, which is great for you. Hopefully you’ve taken a Calculus course in college and gotten an A. If not, I’d try to get in to a Calculus class next semester. Good luck and be sure to apply to a broad range of schools for transfer.</p>
<p>Would a 770 Math II be really bad?</p>
<p>@ ChoklitRain</p>
<p>Thanks again for the reply!
Well I took calc the first semester here and obvisously got an A since I had taken calc 1 and 2 in high school but were unable to transfer any credit cuz they were not AP courses ( quality and competence of a school matters…F)
I was also 4th in national math competition like a long time ago lollll nvm</p>
<p>^^ I don’t think so.</p>
<p>Yeah it just seems like judging quantitative ability is pretty sketchy. I mean a 770 SAT II, 32 M on the ACT, and like a 780 M, with some As/Bs in math (including calc) proves you have ability, but it’s by no means perfect.
Are they looking for math capability or mathematical perfection?</p>
<p>Is an applicant without calculus on the transcript automatically denied?</p>
<p>@eagle2010:</p>
<p>Unless you have some sort of substitution… recognition in math
otherwise its really the very least to have an A in Calc somewhere</p>
<p>I come from a competitive area but a small not-well-known high school…do you have to have a 4.0? i mean if everything else is good…would a 3.95+ cut it??</p>
<p>I got a 36 M ACT, 800 SAT, 790 SAT Math 2, and 5 on BC last yr. But I got deferred from wharton. Clearly, Math isnt as important as people are making it seem. That being said, I feel test scores are sometimes more important then people would like you to believe. Think about this: with thousands of kids applying to wharton with a 4.0+ what can they measurable go off on obejctively. Clearly that is test scores. I ended up with a 2160 and a 33, so I am biased towards saying that test scores do matter.</p>
<p>Does UPenn only consider highest scores?
If so, my math looks like this:
Grades-Geometry: A-, Advanced Algebra: A, Pre-Calc: A-
for the first quarter of senior year AP stats: A-, A, IB Mathematics: A-, B
Math A regents: 93, Math B: 91
SAT I: 750, Math II: 740</p>