Current Penn freshman willing to answer any questions. AMA

<p>Hey guys,</p>

<p>I'm a current Penn freshman who went through the same hysteria that you're all probably going through at this time of the year. I remember thinking that it would've been incredibly helpful to be able to talk to somebody who knew about the school and etc on CC, so I'm going to try to be as helpful as possible and try to answer your questions.</p>

<p>I can answer any questions you have about the school, or even about the college application process in general. Even my application stats if you want them.</p>

<p>AMA (Ask me anything)</p>

<p>thanks for doing this. can you describe the social life at penn?</p>

<p>Honestly the social life is what you make of it. I know thats a clich</p>

<p>hi,</p>

<p>Thank you so much for this. Ok i am a white girl from kansas lol. I think i have very good ecs, but my test scores are very low. I have a 27. My question is do you know anyone at Upenn who is not a urm, or recruited athlete with my scores. Just an idea of my ecs, i have started a peer counseling group in honor of my baby brother who has passed, i am president state and nationally competitive in both forensics and debate. I play violin on the national level and teach violin lessons to people who cant afford them. I also was captain of my varsity squad and am currently coaching a little league cheer squad. There are a few more, but those are my most important. Have you met anyone with my profile?</p>

<p>I can only think of a few right now…</p>

<p>Did everyone at Penn that is not a special case (URM, recruit, etc.) get insane grades in high school? I ask because I have good test scores and I have shown a great passion, but my grades are simply above average - not excellent. </p>

<p>Also, I have heard that there’s a pretty significant divide between the schools. How accurate is that? And if it is true, could you make any generalizations about students from certain schools?</p>

<p>That’s all for now, but thanks for taking the time to answer our questions!</p>

<p>I’m applying ED to Wharton as an ORM, and I’ve demonstrated a balls to the wall passion (even starting my own nonprofit) Unfortunately, while my SAT is a 2280 and I’m in the top 2 percent of my class, I got a 730 on SAT II and a B in PreAP precal. Also my SAT I math was a 740. Would this lack of demonstrating mathematical ability?</p>

<p>Thanks so much for doing this btw! It means a lot :D</p>

<p>I meant to say-- Would this demonstration of a lack of mathematical ability impact my chances? Thanks again!</p>

<p>Yeah, I want to hear about the generalizations of each of the schools too. Thanks!</p>

<p>@mylife I got a B in Honors (same as pre-AP i suppose) precal too! I got a 750 on the Math 2 SAT II though. I would imagine that our SAT II scores prove that we can do the math just fine… I hope.</p>

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<p>I didn’t start this thread, but I can’t resist answering.</p>

<p>The school divide is pretty strong, I’d say. I’m a freshman in M&T (Wharton / engineering dual degree). My close groups of friends are M&Ters, my management 100 team, and the kids in my CIS 120 section who aren’t awkward. (There are a lot of them that are awkward…oh well.) The only kids from the College whom I hang out with are either on my hall or in clubs with me.</p>

<p>You have to remember, though, that I’m in classes with mostly Whartonites and engineers. It makes sense that I’m going to be closer with them. Likewise, it makes sense that I’ll be close with M&Ts; we have an office, and the nature of the program brings us close together. Plus, there’s a special Penn Preview day for M&Ts, where a lot of us got to meet back in April.</p>

<p>In terms of stereotypes, I was surprised by how many students violated the Wharton stereotype of cutthroat. I was equally surprised by how many students confirmed the engineering stereotype of awkward. Don’t get me wrong, you’ll find cutthroat Wharton ******bags, and you’ll find extroverted engineers, just not as many as you might expect.</p>

<p>With that being said, it’s not like it’s impossible to befriend people from different schools within Penn, and it’s not like everyone fits blindly into the purported role of a school. These are what seem to be general trends.</p>

<p>@kristinabrown1</p>

<p>I’d say its still possible, though not likely. If you could somehow get those ACT scores up I would if i were you, that would increase your chances greatly. In any case, when you apply make sure that you can get an interview with an alumnus. Honestly, those can only help you, and it will greatly increase your chances of getting in. With an admission rate of like 10%, people who make really great impressions in the interviews stand out to the admission officers - That’s how I got in to Penn. I had run of the mill stats, but I used the interview to highlight all my EC’s. I recommend you do the same (I went to nats in speech and debate too!)</p>

<p>@dfree124</p>

<p>Not EVERYONE got insane grades in high school. Getting in to college is about selling yourself, and I guess good grades really help. I myself had a C or two on my high school transcripts, but I was able to play those to my advantage by bringing it up on the application and mentioning how I helped tutor younger students in the same subject, so the grade in those classes didn’t reflect my knowledge of the material. Try something like that to turn your weaknesses into strengths.</p>

<p>And, theres sort of a divide between the schools, though its all mostly in jest :smiley: Even though Wharton is the most “prestigious” school and they get lots of little perks that the other schools don’t (They have apparel that’s branded as WHARTON while there isn’t anything that says COLLEGE or ENGINEERING on it, and they have the nicest building on campus all to themselves), theres no animosity between students about it. Sure it’s a little unfair, but thats not the student’s fault. For example, I’m in the college of arts and sciences and I have tons of friends in Wharton and Engineering, and even a few in Nursing.</p>

<p>Lets see - generalizations and stereotypes. Wharton students are here on daddy’s money, go to class in a suit, and their only ambition is to become an investment banker on Wall Street right after school ends so that they can make the big bucks and give a huge middle finger to everyone else ;). Students in the college of “arts and crafts” are stupid and are all getting worthless degrees. Engineering students are all international students from asian countries. Nursing students are nowhere to be found, they dont actually exist…</p>

<p>In reality, none of that is true, for the most part. You’ll find all sorts of different types of people, and the vast majority of students show no animosity towards students of the other schools.</p>

<p>@mylife</p>

<p>I got worse SAT II math scores than you and I’m here. You’ll do fine, especially since you’re applying to Wharton and not Engineering. Highlight that you started your own non-profit. They love that stuff. Also, what does ORM mean?</p>

<p>@Keasbey Nights</p>

<p>Being in one of the dual-degree programs probably makes it seem as though theres a greater divide than there really is. Those programs are much more close-knit than standard programs. The average student will probably hang out with a more diverse group of students than someone in a dual-degree program.</p>

<p>And one reminder about the “divide” between the schools, like I said above, it’s all mostly in jest. I remind my Wharton friends how they’re heartless bastards, and they tell me to go back to my arts and crafts. As long as you avoid the small minorities of ******bags (which every school will have), it’s all a joke and no one is serious about it :)</p>

<p>ORM means that I’m an over represented minority-- meaning that as an Indian applying to Wharton, I’m at a disadvantage because SO MANY competitive, strong INdian candidates will be competing with me. Also, I made some minor problems-- on my essay, I wrote “Wharton will prepare for me so that when…” Essentially, the additional “for” makes the sentence nonsensical :(</p>

<p>Also, I listed myself as cofounder at one point and founder in the additional info. section (which was entirely by accident.) Do you think these errors will make a large impact?</p>

<p>Again, thanks a bunch!. I’m trying to get myself through these next couple of stress filled days, and talking to you helps so much.</p>

<p>i applied ed so i cant get my scores up lol, im also from kansas so know alumni interview…so im screwed? thank you</p>

<p>@mylife</p>

<p>ahhh, I see. I just didn’t know the abbreviation lol. I doubt any of those errors will make an impact. </p>

<p>@kristinabrown1</p>

<p>I’m from an area far more sparsely populated than Kansas. I managed to do my alumni interview over Skype, so maybe shoot off an email and ask if someone could do the same for you?</p>

<p>Can you tell us some of your stats? And are you a URM or have any hook like that?</p>

<p>My question is how important are the subject tests? Specifically, the math 2 subject test?</p>

<p>And are there really a lot of social, normal, outgoing people?</p>

<p>Also lastly, how important is first gen/being low income (stated in essays)? I know you aren’t an admissions rep but I am looking for some comfort :)</p>

<p>Sure,</p>

<p>ACT 34, didn’t take the SAT. Some ugly SAT II scores (600s all about and such). 3.87 unweighted GPA. IB diploma. Some sports, speech and debate state runner up and national qualifier, some volunteer work, etc. Graduated 6/350 in my class. White male, but from a very under-represented area of the US (I’m the only kid from my state who went to Penn for the class of 2015). Not sure if that counts as a hook or not.</p>

<p>How are the nursing students doing? Are there any asian males in nursing?</p>

<p>wow lol your stats are ridiculous…good job</p>

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In other words, Montana or Wyoming:</p>

<p>[Penn</a> Admissions: Incoming Class Profile](<a href=“http://www.admissions.upenn.edu/profile/]Penn”>http://www.admissions.upenn.edu/profile/)</p>

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