What happened to UCLA?

<p>Rooster, here we go</p>

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<p>Stanford's marketing department has used deceptive tactics to imply that Stanford has produced successful people. Look beneath the superficialities, and you'll find that the overwhelming majority did not attend Stanford as an undergraduate, and sometimes, not even as a graduate student. All of the following people have been used in Stanford marketing literature and press releases: </p>

<p>-Donald Knuth did not attend Stanford for his undergraduate degree; he went to Case Institute of Technology (Case Western Reserve). His PhD is from the California Institute of Technology (Caltech). </p>

<p>-The founder of MIPS, John Hennessey, did not attend Stanford for his undergraduate degree. His alma mater is Villanova University. He got his graduate degrees at State University of New York, Stonybrook. Take a look at the Senior Management and the Board of Directors at MIPS (<a href="http://www.mips.com%5B/url%5D"&gt;www.mips.com&lt;/a&gt;). Not a single one received a degree from the undergraduate school of engineering at Stanford, even though MIPS is only 15 minutes away from the Stanford campus! Yet Hennessey was a provost for the school of engineering and is currently the president of Stanford! Does he know something you don't? </p>

<p>-The inventor of the mouse, Doug Engelbart, did not attend Stanford for his undergraduate degree. Engelbart picked up a degree in electrical engineering from Oregon State, and a Bachelor of Engineering and PhD from UC Berkeley. </p>

<p>-The founders of Sun Microsystems did not attend Stanford for their undergraduate degrees. Vinod Khosla went to the Indian Institute of Technology and picked up his masters at Carnegie Mellon, Bill Joy went to U. of Michigan and picked up a Master's at UC Berkeley (in addition to inventing the sockets protocol for the Berkeley System Distribution of UNIX), Andy Bechtolsheim got his undergraduate training in Germany and got an MS from Carnegie-Mellon, and Scott McNealy went to Harvard. </p>

<p>-The founders of Silicon Graphics did not attend Stanford for their undergraduate degree. Jim Clark attended a college in New Orleans, Louisiana, and picked up his PhD from the University of Utah. Marc Hannah went to U. of Illinois at Urbana Champaign. Charles Rhodes picked up his BS, MS, and PhD's from Purdue University. Kurt Akeley got his undergraduate degree from U. of Delaware. </p>

<p>-The founders of Cisco System did not attend Stanford for their undergraduate degree. Len Bosack got his BSEE from U. of Pennsylvania. Sandra Lerner got her BA in Political Science from California State in Chico. </p>

<p>-The founders of Google did not attend Stanford for their undergraduate degrees. Larry Page went to U. of Michigan. Sergey Brin's alma mater is U. of Maryland. </p>

<p>-The founder of defunct VA-Linux and the fully functional Sourceforge did not attend Stanford for his undergraduate degree. Larry Augustin went to U. of Notre Dame. </p>

<p>-The founders of Apple Computer did not attend Stanford for their undergraduate degrees. Steve Jobs attended (and dropped out of) Reed College. Steve Wozniak received his BSEE from UC Berkeley. </p>

<p>-The co-inventor of the transistor, William Shockley, did not attend Stanford for his undergraduate degree. His alma mater is Caltech, and he got his PhD from MIT. But he grew up in Palo Alto, California (the town that surrounds Stanford University), and moved back to found one of the first transistor companies that would spawn off into the half-a-dozen companies that put the "silicon" in "Silicon Valley". (The founders of Intel didn't attend Stanford either.) </p>

<p>-The founders of EBay did not attend Stanford for their undergraduate degrees. Pierre Omidyar went to Tufts and transferred to UC Berkeley. After founding EBay, he gave $10 million to Tufts. Jeff Skoll attended the University of Toronto. </p>

<p>-The founders of Microsoft did not attend Stanford for their undergraduate degrees. Bill Gates dropped out of Harvard. I wonder why Stanford needed to solicit their funds? Don't they have scores of successful alumni who could have donated the money? It's a rhetorical question, of course. Many of the buildings on campus were funded by non-alumni, including the massive Green Library and Green Earth Sciences building, Stern Hall, the Iris & B. Gerald Cantor Center for the Visual Arts (which was renamed from the Leland Stanford Jr. Memorial Art Museum), and others. Non alumnus and Silicon Graphics/Netscape founder Jim Clark recently caused a furor when he decided to stop funding the building of the Clark Biological Sciences building for Stanford's new department fusing biology and engineering. Explaining his decision in a published letter to the New York Times, Clark made it unequivocally clear that he gave the money for the building because he expected a return on his investment, and not out of love or loyalty to Stanford.</p>

<p>Alright Stanfordalum. I don't believe you graduated from Stanford. </p>

<p>Every student has studied at Green library at one point in his or her academic career. You need to check books out at some point and professors often put certain documents on reserve. If you did graduate from Stanford, you should be able to answer this question. Please tell me the name of the biggest study room at Green Library. (The room has also been there for a VERY long time, so you can't use the excuse that you "graduated a long time ago and it wasn't there"). From within that study room, what can I see from out the middle windows? </p>

<p>There are some very large oil paintings on the wall of that study room. Who are they of?</p>

<p>If I wanted to buy textbooks from the Stanford book store, which level must I go to? </p>

<p>Any person who graduated from Stanford should easily answer those questions.</p>

<p>Lane Reading room (or Field?) Fountain, Hoover tower, 2nd floor. I don't remember.</p>

<p>I have a better idea. Check the alum book.</p>

<p>1982</p>

<p>Under S</p>

<p>I will write down first 20 names.</p>

<p>I have a better idea. Log on to your stanfordalumni.org site, and type in "goo" in the Last Name field. Click search and tell me the first name that comes up.</p>

<p>Yes. UCSD is a great school. Sure maybe 10 years ago, it wasn't as good, but currently, as of RIGHT NOW, UCSD is the equivalent of Cornell in sciences and intelligent engineers in many objective departmental excellence rankings. </p>

<p>California Ivies - UCLA, Cal Tech, UCSF, USC, UC Berkeley, UCSD, Stanfurd, and Pomona/HarveyMudd/Claremont. </p>

<p>An Ivy in California. What gets any better than that?</p>

<p>Hey Rooster</p>

<p>For Privacy I will erase last names OK?</p>

<p>Name Yr./Deg. Major(s) Company City/State/Country<br>
Ms. Ronnie
Ms. Ronnie 1964 AB History </p>

<p>Mrs. Ruth
Ms. Ruth 1937 AB Soc Sci/Soc Thought </p>

<p>Quadrille Academy (H) Thermal, CA USA </p>

<p>Mrs. Frank
Ms. Jean 1948 AB Political Science </p>

<p>Mrs. Eloise
Ms. Eloise 1944 AB Biological Sciences</p>

<p>California Ivies - UCLA, USC, CAl/UCSF, UCSD, Stanford, Pomona/HarveyMudd/Claremont, and Caltech/Occidental</p>

<p>Awww dang. Stanfordalum82 really is a disgruntled Stanford alum. Where's your school pride?! Why are you trying to degrade your own alma mater?</p>

<p>i think hes trying to keep things sensible</p>

<p>It's sad that even a while after I started this thread, UCLA still has a pitiful number of posts: the second lowest, after Vanderbilt. C'mon, now! This is just depressing. The school with which UCLA shares the #25 spot on the USNEWS rankings (Georgetown) has the second most number of posts in this forum!</p>

<p>The UCLA threads are about as active as they used to be. On the old CC I dont remember there being a whole lot of traffic. I think it is roughly the same as it used to be. We need an interesting conversation. Something like "UCLA is better than University X." Some straglers should then notice and start dissing UCLA and we would then have to defend our great school. Actually, I think the UCLA people on this site are a bit docile. They tend to not get into arguments and stuff. I guess when you are as good as we are the truth speaks for itself.</p>

<h1>of posts doesn't mean anything per se. Just look at the number of apps that UCLA receives...that speaks more than the number of posts on CC.</h1>

<p>Remember, the UCLA stats on the old board were highly inflated by all the questions/answers to/from the poster known as uclaadmissions, who I haven't seen turn up here on the new board.</p>

<p>The winner of the Apprentice is a UCLA alum. He beat the people from the ohter schools. That is not really exciting but it is still a little something to brag about.</p>

<p>lol shyboy u love arguments huh? it seems like youre the great defender of berkeley/ucla haha. i remember when i first got on CC, u were like us ucla ppl gotta stick together and defend against those who think ucla sucks. ^_^</p>

<p>Yep thats me! I guess it is not so much that I like to argue as much as I hate people to say stupid things. I dont know why I defend Berkeley so much though. I did not even go to that school. I got in but wanted to go to UCLA instead. Maybe I have calmed down in my old age as I rarely argue as much as I used to. Or, perhaps people dont say as many dumb things as they used to. Btw, I remember you too.</p>

<p>oh yea i was watching the last episode of the apprentice, and kelly only uses his west point degree to fend off the princeton/harvard of jennifer. they did mention he had a jd/mba, but they didnt say from where!!!!! ahhhhhhhhhhhhhh (but i guess we did get some publicity earlier on)</p>

<p>so as u found my post elsewhere, i was wondering what non-CA ppl think about ucla. it definately isnt princeton/harvard, but i thought it wouldve been worthy of mentioning, considering the law school and anderson are highly respected.</p>

<p>I never actually watched the show but my fellow co-workers (UCLA alums) were talking about it. Pretty messed up that Donald didnt want to mention UCLA ha? Well, he's from the east coast so who cares what he thinks. ;) Did they only mention us once on the show?</p>

<p>For the full report:</p>

<p><a href="http://www.anderson.ucla.edu/x7226.xml%5B/url%5D"&gt;http://www.anderson.ucla.edu/x7226.xml&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p>