<p>Just asking if I'm in the UW / W GPA range for Ivies. I took the most rigorous course load possible and still maintained top 1% (our ranking is weird because I don't even have a 4.0, in fact I have 2 C's and some B's).</p>
<p>Will those C's kill my application?</p>
<p>If I have a heavy senior upward trend, and take more classes with A's how will a 3.8 / 4.6 GPA look?</p>
<p>If I got a C in AP chem but an 800 on the SAT 2 will this make up for it?</p>
<p>Here’s a GPA vs SAT/ACT chart for reference. It’s the Harvard one but the other ivies are linked below. </p>
<p>Ivy admissions are holistic. There’s no way to guarantee for sure you’ll get no matter how perfect your GPA/rank is. Do your best on your essays and presenting yourself as an overall well-rounded student.</p>
<p>I don’t see the links?</p>
<p>Being top 1% and having Cs and Bs will show how rigorous your HS is. Don’t worry about it!!</p>
<p>[Harvard</a> University - GPA and Test Scores Needed for Admission](<a href=“http://collegeapps.about.com/od/GPA-SAT-ACT-Graphs/ss/harvard-admission-gpa-sat-act.htm]Harvard”>Harvard University: Acceptance Rate, SAT/ACT Scores, GPA)</p>
<p>There you go. Sorry about that.</p>
<p>GPA is relative to different high schools, which is why there is no definite answer for “GPA ranges.” For the Ivy league, you should be in at least the top ~3% of the grade and have a mid 2200 SAT or higher or a 33 ACT or higher. If you are hooked (being a minority, legacy, recruited athlete, child of major donor or faculty like professors) then you may get in with considerably lower academic stats.</p>
<p>Those stats get your foot in the door though. You can still easily get rejected if you dont have great essays, recommendations, above average ECs, etc.</p>
<p>I think being in the top~3% is a little harsh.</p>
<p>Especially when competitive schools have differences in GPAs like .001 that separate 1 and 2, 3 and 4, etc.</p>
<p>4.0 10char</p>
<p>^ you certainly don’t need a 4.0 to be competitive. Sure it helps, but a high class rank is far superior to a 4.0</p>
<p>@magentaturtle Except for Cornell, no it is not being harsh.</p>
<p>So you think someone in the top 10% wouldn’t even be considered because they don’t fall into the “at least top 3%” category to get their foot in the door?</p>
<p>I just find that a little hard to believe and yes, a little harsh.</p>
<p>magentaturtle -</p>
<p>I agree with you. There is no set number that will get you in the door just like there is no set number that gets you denied. The Ivy Leagues are notoriously holistic in their approach to reading people’s files. </p>
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<p>This has already been discussed before and by a former admissions officer here. </p>
<p><a href=“http://talk.collegeconfidential.com/college-admissions/1324666-class-ranking-really-important.html?highlight=class+rank[/url]”>http://talk.collegeconfidential.com/college-admissions/1324666-class-ranking-really-important.html?highlight=class+rank</a></p>
<p>For HYP and also brown, Dartmouth, Columbia and penn, yes, an unhooked applicant in the top 10% would have close to no chance. Cornell is different because some of the schools such as hotel and architecture look more for fit than at academics.</p>
<p>It’s no surprise, in my county at least, that in the four years I’ve been in high school, the ones who get into ivies and peer schools are the vals and sals and 2-3 places higher. The ones who get in with higher class rank are almost always minorities or legacies, not just in my school but in other schools in the county.</p>
<p>That’s so flawed in so many ways…</p>
<p>I am essentially a 4.0 GPA unweighted & 2300+ SAT applicant.
I’m pretty sure I’m not top 3% at my school.</p>
<p>There’s simply too little to separate kids after a certain level of competitiveness for rank to play as important of a role as you believe.</p>
<p>Plus, not all of the Ivy League schools put class rank as very important or important.</p>
<p>Namely Harvard and Penn, which I got from the thread you pointed out.</p>
<p>ok from what i gather ivies are very arbitrary and I understand that. so , is this the same if I changed the perspective to schools that are slightly lower than Ivies like Northwestern, Duke, Johns Hopkins, etc. ?</p>
<p>I think you’ll be fine. Being in the top 1% shows that your HS may be more rigorous than others as Lehigh2017 stated.</p>
<p>@daboss, Northwestern, Duke, and Johns hopkins are not “lower” than the ivies.</p>
<p>I do agree with what cortana431 said this time.</p>
<p>:)</p>