What is generally considered a typical Asian?

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<p>I can't understand why anyone would even say that Asians are natually talented academically- that's just absolutely untrue, and truthfully, I'm quite sick of some of the stereotypes that follow Asians. I'm Asian -Chinese to be exact- and I wouldn't consider myself 'natually gifted,' just that I work hard due to parental pressures. I've met a grand total of three students (two of them Caucasian) who are motivated for themselves.</p>

<p>Asian intelligence? I believe that all it is is overly motivated parents, pushing their children to a 'better future.' For me, it's hell, but heck, I do well in school. My parents taught me to do third grade math (multiplication and division) when I was in first grade, believing it to give me an advantage over the other children, algebra when I was in fifth grade, for that same reason, and continues to teach me (a couple of years ahead of the American schedule) of knowledge in mathematics. They probably would have done the same for me in the Sciences had they been adequately equipped English.</p>

<p>So, getting back to the point...what I consider an Asian? Kids with over-controlling parents, forcing them to learn. Kids with perfectionist parents, who seek (I'm sorry, I can't think right now) perfection in them. Kids with the same superficial interests and activities done only so it looks good on their resume...and go to college for the typical money-making jobs (sciences, business, lawyers...yeah...I haven't heard of many Asian philosophy majors...)</p>

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<p>"I'm ASIAN and very very proud of it! In my school, our lunch rooms are seperated into 3 different parts; Whites, Indians, and Oriental. Of course there are sub groups, but mostly we don't mingle with the Indians or the Whites, but there are exceptions."</p>

<p>LOL. That must be a funny sight to see. No blacks or hispanics in your school?</p>

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<p>Yeah, so i'm asian, chinese to be exact, my dad immigrated here, and well, he never really "pushed" me or wanted to see perfection in me, yet im a perfectionist. I'm aslo crazily competitive. My dad actually pushed me away from perfection, he would tell me: you don't have to spend so much time doing this or that. He never taught me math as a child or turned me to a life of SAT studying. His English is terrible, yet my English is wonderful. Seriously, he never once put pressure on me academically, I actually wish he would have sometimes. My mother is the same way, she immigrated here and she would be happy if i spent the rest of my life living at home with her...so to say that all asian parents are motivated to make a perfect child by pressuring him or her into resume positives is absolutely wrong. </p>

<p>Personally, i am fairly smart and i have ECs that i love doing, that i decided to do, for example, swimming. Im a competitive swimmer and ive excelled ever since i started--my parents would not care if i quit, they are not overcontrolling, and these asian stereotypes do a lot to hurt people like me who have true motivation and talent only to be thought of as a concoction of driven parents.....</p>

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<p>I'm Chinese.. well I think it has a lot to do with culture. In China the way college works.. they care for stats..stats stats stats, so parents come here, push their children to work hard for things like SATs, grades.... but of course.. seeing how the culture works, I don't think it's that surprising that Asians get stereotyped this way. I'm not sure why piano/violin comes into play.. I think it's because music teaches self-discipline, or something like that.. Eh!!!</p>

<p>I guess I kind of fit the stereotypical Asian.. but I have a lot of Asian friends who are not naturally smart, but work very hard.. and yada yada.. Ok, this topic could go on forever.</p>

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<p>hahhaha "My parents taught me to do third grade math (multiplication and division) when I was in first grade, believing it to give me an advantage over the other children, algebra when I was in fifth grade, for that same reason, and continues to teach me (a couple of years ahead of the American schedule) of knowledge in mathematics. "</p>

<p>so true...a lot of azns like me are only so good because they keep on working ahead of the schedule during the holidays in things that you can self-teach ie maths. It's not like we have an innate ability=D. Otherwise, i would be crap because i can be very slow in some topics. Lately I've been getting pretty crappy marks in maths because i can no longer self-teach higher level IB maths anymore (too confusing!!), although im still first in my class with a grand total of four students. </p>

<p>also, I'm very ****ed off about the non-assertiveness of azn ppl. I mean that's why china is so crap right now... I mean its totally their fault, it lies in the culture! there's a saying that even though one azn may be superior than another white, en masse they are hopeless.</p>

<p>Been trying to go against the azn stereotype! although i sorta fall right in it. i do piano, HL maths, although i hate science and im more humanities i think, cuz i love history. other azn stereotypes? being cheap and continuously saves munny.</p>

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<p>the general azn stereotype at my school, well... i went to a weird school. first of all, there were only like, 20 asians in my entire school if 2,000 kids, and NONE of them fit into the stereotypical asian category completely. the asians could've been divided into groups like druggies, punks, etc. only a few asians at my school were actually smart.</p>

<p>the ones that came the closest to the asian stereotype for their intelligence --because they've taken things like calc BC, AP physics, etc.-- also happened to be varsity athletes with anywhere from above average physical ability to some pretty impressive feats of strength/endurance.</p>

<p>so basically, we have dumb asians and smart asians who play lots of sports</p>

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<p>my parents' reasoning for forcing the piano onto me for 10 years was to give me patience. too bad over $10,000 of lessons later, it didnt work. so sad.
Parents esp asians like to compare their kids, so if one kid does something every kid ends up doing it. </p>

<p>"In my school, our lunch rooms are seperated into 3 different parts; Whites, Indians, and Oriental. Of course there are sub groups, but mostly we don't mingle with the Indians or the Whites, but there are exceptions."
--- my school is the same way! haha. except we have more groups like the blacks/african americans (i'm not sure how to say it to be politically correct) table & some hispanic tables. then there's the punk/gothic people who loom around the vending machines & scare at you when you walk buy.</p>

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so true...a lot of azns like me are only so good because they keep on working ahead of the schedule during the holidays in things that you can self-teach ie maths. It's not like we have an innate ability=D.

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<p>That's true in my experience; most of the high scoring Asian kids in my grade take tons of tutoring outside of school, whether it be French, Math, Chemistry, etc. And those tutors are so damn expensive as well.</p>

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<p>lol yea... I actually didn't know about that until last year. I was in AP US, and when my teacher gave us practice AP exams, a group of Asian girls went up to her to tell her that they had already taken this exam with their tutors. I was like... O.o you need a tutor for AP US History?!</p>

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<p>Ok, as an Indian, since people keep saying lets include Indians. I live in Memphis, TN, and my school is the best in the city. We have a lot of Indians, and we have all types. One, most of us aren't obsessed with our scores. Yeah, I have the SAT scores, the 5's on the AP exams and all that, but I'm also a huge community volunteer, of my own volition, and am very active in political groups. ALso, a lot of the Indians at my school care more about the way we dress than we do about our grades. I spend more time at Express Men than I do at my desk doing homework. Plus, I hate math and science. I'm going into pure business, but since I am good at math, I'm considering a finance concentration. Oh, and there is no way I'm going to HYPSM. My top choices of school are USC, NYU, and UPenn, the lone Ivy on my list, for its phenomenal Wharton School of business. Oh, and we party. Plus, we don't get outside tutoring unless we're failing.</p>

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<p>theres no way ur going to HYPSM because you dont like them or you cant get in?</p>

<p>cuz wharton is not a bit easier.</p>

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<p>"I'm ASIAN and very very proud of it! In my school, our lunch rooms are seperated into 3 different parts; Whites, Indians, and Oriental. Of course there are sub groups, but mostly we don't mingle with the Indians or the Whites, but there are exceptions."</p>

<p>Wow, that's really quite a shame. I'm sorry to hear that you are so closeminded and only want to hang out with those of your own physical features.</p>

<p>Hey guys, here's an idea: How about y'all stop focusing on your ethnicity (it's not like anyone does anything to BECOME asian, european, indian, native american, etc. You're BORN that way) and start focusing on what makes you special as a PERSON.</p>

<p>It's entirely immature and quite frankly stupid to purely define yourself as "azn", with "all azn friendz" and whatnot. It's fine to be proud of your culture, but when you exclude people outside of your ethnicity, that's NOT okay, whether you are white OR a minority. It's called R-A-C-I-S-M. Think about it. If I removed the word "azn" from my previous sentences, and said "white" instead, what would I be labeled as? A racist. Exactly. </p>

<p>I'm Polish, and if I wanted to, I could constantly remind everyone of my Polish ethnicity and speak only in Polish to my Polish friends, and refuse to make friends with non-Poles. But I won't! Because that is just stupid! What's the point? This is America. Take advantage of the wonderful opportunity this country offers and learn from each other! </p>

<p>To be honest, as a well-meaning, hard working european who enjoys learning about all cultures, including my own, I am sick of teenagers at my school and elsewhere who have such a pack-like, racist mentality. For example, at my school, there are many asians who go so far as to say things like "all white people are stupid", constantly point out to others verbally that they "are asian" and even sit in their own huge asian exclusive lunch area. Now, this is only the way my school is. I have heard similar examples with just about every race in other schools.</p>

<p>I can only hope that, when kids such as I have described above get older and mature, that they start to see how hypocritical their actions are. By acting the way you do, you are only ENCOURAGING sterotypes.</p>

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<p>i'm mexican</p>

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<p>i hope the tone used wasnt intentional. i hope. in my high school, yeah, cliques of homogeneous race formed, but its not like they were intentional. asian kids usually stuck together, probably cuz they could relate to each others' fobby parents. its not like they ignore people of other races, its just a cultural thing.</p>

<p>(indians/asians merge into a greater clique because their parents share the same attitudes towards education and discipline usually)</p>

<p>note: my HS was apporox 45% indian/asian</p>

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<p>LOL: My HS is Apprx 20% Asian, yet, I only know of 2 Asians in Honors....WOW!!!!!!!!!!</p>

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<p>hahahaha we only have two white people in our math club.</p>

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<p>I can get in. I just don't like HYPSM. Weird, I know. Plus, they don't have undergrad business schools. Moreover, I have friends who go to these schools, and most of them aren't entirely happy with the place, especially those at H.</p>

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<p>undergrad business degrees are BS majors- pun intended.</p>

<p>they provide you with no specialty. HYPS dont have business schools for the reason that businesses need people with specialties, something to offer that the next guy doesnt have. the MBA provides the management knowledge. wharton benefits by not having much competition, while having great demand from applicants.</p>

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<p>I have friends getting out of Wharton with salaries starting in the six figures, at companies like McKinsey and Goldman Sachs. Moreover, I could always submatriculate into a 5-year Wharton MBA if I went there. Plus, UPenn definitely felt a lot better than H, Y, and S. I haven't visited P yet.</p>

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<p>aiya...so true...my folks couldn't believe that i got 730 R and 690 (gasp!!) M...otherwise, i am ur typical azn (violin/math/science)...but i dunno, even though i like these subjects/areas, i tend to do better in humanities/languages >< haha =)</p>