<p>Lol, I wasn't planning on totally relying on the college courses for content. I am however, expecting these levels of courses to cover the material on these SAT II content examinations. But I will definitely invest in the review books. As I will for the ACT, SAT, and AP test that I haven't taken.</p>
<p>MeTaLhEaD</p>
<p>I am interested in doing a sport for Princeton. Probably either a running season, or swimming season sport. I am new at doing both. This is my first year, so I am not the greatest at both, but what I can say about myself is that I work hard and will put forth as much effort and time to making myself better for the sport and the team. I heard I have to contact the coach for one of these sports; I find this to be true. What do they look for? Are they strictly looking for those who spent their whole life doing the sport, or those who earned awards and metals, and other achievements with their sport? This is my first year, in my whole life I am able to do this; so I am taking advantage of this. But I am not the best on the team. What do you think those coaches will say, or do?</p>
<p>MeTaLhEaD.</p>
<p>This semester i have this crappy AP Biology teacher and now im not doing that great this semester. i applied to Princeton RD.by the way i rank 2/137 and i am also a black female. my SATs arent as stellar as most people on this forum and my senior grades arent as hot as i would like them to be for a number of reasons. The courses ive taken are mostly honors and aps:
Honors Geometry
Honors Algebra II/Trig.
Honors Chemistry
Honors World History
AP US
Senior Yr:
AP Biology
AP English Lit.
AP Calculus AB
Honors Physics
(my school only offers 5 AP classes which stinks compared to other people.....AP Spanish i couldnt take even though i wouldve loved to because of a course conflict)
I have a number of ECs:
I am currently the President of the Science Club, former Treasurer
Co-VP of Youth for a United World
Co-VP of Sophomore and Junior Executive Boards in Student Council
National Honor Society
Spanish Honor Society
National English Honor Society
I have been part of this selective medical program for four years in this medical school in NY
During the past summer, I was a research intern in a major hospital in NY.....
i didnt want to sound like i was just throwing out numbers and facts and i actually never wanted to ask my chances because i was afraid of the responses i would get after reading lots of other people's posts.....but im just curious....
Thanks!</p>
<p>Metalhead- I'm not sure about running, but swimming has specific time standards set to even basically be considered for the varsity team at Princeton. You can go to the Princeton Swimming website and check out what these times are...they're pretty fast. If you only swim on a high school team and don't also swim year-round club (which usually includes about 4-5 hours a day), it is unfortunately unlikely that you will be able to get such amazing times in such a short period of time, unless you have some kind of crazy natural talent. Just check out the times and see how close you are. </p>
<p>If you can't swim or run varsity, you could always do it as an intramural sport or as a club sport at Princeton, which are less competitive and difficult.</p>
<p>I just got my results back for the ACT. I got a damn 23. It is so low, i'm so ****ed off right now. W/e though. Does anyone have anything to say about this 23 and my chances in getting into Princeton? Hell, why would a damn test screw everything up anyways?</p>
<p>MeTaLhEaD</p>
<p>eeeeh.... that's pretty low. I'd say keep practicing and try to take the test again. You're going to need a score higher than that. Maybe give the SAT a shot (i haven't read the whole thread.. maybe you already have)?</p>
<p>metalhead: I think you definitely have a shot if you can get that test score up...23 is kind of low for a school like Princeton.</p>
<p>23 is very low for Princeton. But you should def take the test again, and try to study for it from reveiw books. And, about ACT/ SATs, you def want to mention (I think) only the one you performed well on. For example, if you did both of them and did really well on the ACT (might want to get it higher than 23) and poorly on the SAT just mention ACT. Check first though if they accept ACT scores (Princeton does) and if its okay not to report SATs. </p>
<p>As for running and swimming, its very hard to be recruited if you have done it only for one year. I know your thinking it might help get in, and theres no harm in trying, but its unlikely that it will boost you a lot in the admissions office. I tried to get recruited for rowing but it wasnt until months into the process after talking to the coach, visiting the team, etc. that I realized I wouldnt be able to be recruited even though I am the best on my team which is in a very competitive junior rowing area...Sure, I have a great relationship with the coach now, and planning to walk on, but just dont bet on being recruited. Swimming in particular is hard to be recruited for because CA is a powerhouse in swimming and the kids that are going to PTon from my class have swum all year round since they were five and trained intensly on the college level...</p>
<p>I dont mean to be pessimistic, just letting you know whats the deal with recruiting.</p>
<p>I dont see how you could have taken all of those great classes and scored under 50 on your psat. PSAT is a great indicator. If that is so...I say no chance at admission.</p>
<p>You won't make the AI with a 23 ACT even if you score 800's on all 3 SATs and have a class rank of 1. a 23 will get you 54 on the AI. That is too low for even an athlete. I believe the athlete cut-off at princeton is 60.</p>
<p>I want to make it clear that there is no "cut-off" for admissions to Princeton. 23 translates to 540 per section which is definitely very low by Princeton admissions standards but again, there is no such thing as a cut-off.</p>
<p>I just wanted to second the guy who was pointing out the toughness of athletic recruiting. Athletic recruitment at a competitive D1 school like Princeton is extremely tough. Now, my school has had some limited success (our rowers, who as a team compete with some of the more junior teams from lots of universities, often get recruited to good school, including Harvard, Princeton, Cornell, etc.), but this is not a good indicator.</p>
<p>As an anecdote, I play a fair bit of squash, and I happen to know the squash coach at Princeton well. This year there were 3 recruits. One was the top junior player in Canada, the other one of the top 10 in America, and the third is a foreign player, whose rank I'm not entirely sure of. While Princeton is perhaps stronger in squash than in other sports (#2 in the nation), which may account for this unbelievably competitive recruitment, the point is recruitment is extremely difficult.</p>
<p>This year, my school only had 2 recruits to Ivy league schools - 1 to Harvard for rowing (this guy can out row a 2 man boat by himself - he's unbelievably good) and 1 for soccer (he's one of the best players in Canada).</p>
<p>Bottom line: don't count on recruitment at a school like Princeton unless you're unbelievable.</p>
<p>1of42 forgot to mention a third recruit to Princeton who is quite simply an amazing swimmer.</p>
<p>Not really.</p>
<p>I have to agree with people who say that admission is virtually impossible with MeTaLhEaD's current scores--they are significantly lower than those of even a recruited athlete (in fact I'd say the only people that could get in on those scores would be development admits--those whose parents donated a building or something), but scores can easily (relative to other factors) be improved.</p>
<p>Don't bother with athletic recruitment...and saying that you try really hard despite being bad at the sport will probably get your application laughed out of the adcom meetings. I took a look at the Princeton swimming depth chart...it's too competitive for anyone who doesn't swim 8+ times a week for a club. I'd love to keep swimming at Princeton, but the reality is I'm a small fish in a big pond (mmm...1of42 and I are in the same boat).</p>
<p>I wouldn't give up on Princeton, especially if you can get those scores up, but keep in mind that you're looking for a school that's a good fit (this may sound a bit didactic) and most Princeton admits will have SAT/ACT scores much higher than you and class ranks to match.</p>
<p>I definitely am not trying to get into Princeton just to swim. It was a thought; after all, it is my first year every being able to do this stuff because of my family circumstances. It's not only the foster care issue, I wasn't ever able to do anything all my life (activity wise) because we had a lot of family problems. Step dad always worked, mom was on chemo or some other stuff to get rid of her liver cancer, she got addicted to prescription medication later so I wasn't able to do anything after the cancer stage. So nothing really ever favored us kids. I took on the responsibility as a young child, so I grew up really fast.</p>
<p>That is the reason I never did any sports, and of course, it def. affects me now and adds to the reason why I am doing them now. We still have problems in the household, so I do the activities to get away, but I learned that I do like them: Swimming and running, so I am not just doing them to do them to make my application look better. I don't really care about making it look better, I just want it to be me. And if they don't like me, then w/e.</p>
<p>MeTaLhEaD.</p>
<p>How did you pass all of those hard clases like calc III etc by junior year if you only got a 23? I don't see how you can have the intellectual potenial to do all of that. I scored 34 and I can't imagine having the time etc. to take 12 college courses on top of my 7 regular classes. I am not being cruel, it is just very strange. When did you start these classes etc?</p>
<p>Obviously there is some confusion. Sorry for it, I must have not been clear enough. I listed some of the courses I will be taking before I graduate high school. In all, if it all works out, I will have over 62 college credits accumulated and will earn my Associates in General Studies from my Community College. The courses listed are what I will have taken before I graduate. This is my schedule now, for this semester:
Spanish IV @ High School
Analytical Physics I @ College
Analytic Geometry and Calculus II @ College
AP History @ High School
General Chemistry II @ College</p>
<p>The AP courses I have taken are:
AP Geography, AP History (.5 Credit), AP Calculus, AP Chemistry.</p>
<p>The AP courses I will take are:
AP Government, AP Literature, AP Biology</p>
<p>The college courses that I WILL take, but are not limited to, are:
Calculus III, Organic Chemistry I, Organic Chemistry II, Communications I, Communications II, Psychology I, Sociology I (maybe), Anatomy and Physiology, Linear Algebra, Differential Equations, and maybe some more, depends on time. Remember, not limited to.</p>
<p>I don't nor anyone else understands how I earned a 23 on my ACT. It doesn't make sense. Actually, it is the reading section and English section that brought me down, because I scored high 20's on all the other sections. I even scored a 27 on the writing section. It was the 19 on the reading and the other English section that killed my ACT cumulative score. It's a good thing I am taking an English course over the summer, lol.</p>
<p>Some people just don't score as well on standardized tests, colleges know that. The problem is if you don't have good test scores to fall back on the rest of your application has to work alot harder.</p>
<p>Well, let's have another scenario here. Let's say I earn myself a 27 next time I take the ACT. If I have marvelous essays and show stellar academics on the application with enthusiastic recommendations, what will result during the admissions process?</p>
<p>I am not a 4.0 nor my class' valedictorian, but my academic record is the best and hardest out of all the students in the school.</p>
<p>I'm sorry to say that a 27 probably won't cut it. Try getting at least a 31-32. Sorry...</p>
<p>Agreed...especially if your GPA isn't that good.</p>