What makes Rose Hulman #1?

<p>Everyone who uses US News and has the slightest interest in engineering would have gone Rose-whoo? upon finding this college. Their website boasts of being number one for eight years in a row now. </p>

<p>However, I was hoping someone could fill me in on why this college has kept tihs position and stature. I have heard several negative comments about Rose and the students don't seem to be very happy. </p>

<p>Coming to Harvey Mudd College in sunny California who is also ranked #1 on USNews, comes across as a much better institution. Besides US News, I have rarely seen Rose ranked or even mentioned anywhere else. HMC definately seems like a more exclusive and dynamic institution. Rose Hulman, on the other hand, has an acceptance rate of over 60%. I understand that the selectivity of a college does not always mirror its academic brilliance, but 60%!!!! </p>

<p>To make a long story short, I have been accepted at RHIT, and know absolutely nothing besides USNEWS 8 years - #1.</p>

<p>Number one in what ranking?</p>

<p>I've heard of Rose Hulman before. I'd suggest assessing it yourself, by using US News' criteria:</p>

<p><a href="http://www.usnews.com/usnews/edu/grad/rankings/eng/brief/engrank_brief.php%5B/url%5D"&gt;http://www.usnews.com/usnews/edu/grad/rankings/eng/brief/engrank_brief.php&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p>

<p>I'm not sure where you heard about the negative responses. I've only heard of students who love it. I've visited twice and was impressed by how HAPPY the students were. </p>

<p>The 2 visits I had....the students would stop me and tell me how great the school was and were smiling. The second visit confirmed that also. </p>

<p>I have done a lot of reasearch about Rose and compared it to Harvey Mudd. I'm sure both school are great. But my vote is with Rose. I do live in the Midwest.</p>

<p>Hopefully, someone that goes to Rose may help you.</p>

<p>Yeah, #1 in what? It most certainly is not number one overall or in engineering overall.</p>

<h1>1 at Non-Doctoral Schools</h1>

<p><a href="http://www.usnews.com/usnews/edu/college/rankings/brief/topprogs_nophd_brief.php%5B/url%5D"&gt;http://www.usnews.com/usnews/edu/college/rankings/brief/topprogs_nophd_brief.php&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p>

<p>Thanks for all the feedback. As for the first ranking link provided, RHIT is mainly an undergraduate institution. </p>

<p>How would one compare a school like Rose Hulman & Harvey Mudd to a bigger university such as Uof Illinois etc. I believe the experience should be quite different. </p>

<p>As for the negative responses, the student body at Harvey Mudd seemed to be much more dynamic and outgoing. There was a sense of leave me and my laptop alone at Rose. I might be completely off the mark here, but for some reasons Rose Hulman came across as a very techie only school.</p>

<p>Everything that I've heard about Rose-Hulman is that it is a fantastic school for engineering. However, if you are not absolutely sure you want to go into engineering or a related field, Rose isn't the place for you.</p>

<p>In the Midwest it goes UIUC, UMICH, Purdue, Rose Hulman, and Northwestern.</p>

<p>Mssales where did you get your Ranking??</p>

<p>Consensus and reputation, by students, and area people.</p>

<p>Does anyone have the full US News ranking of non-doctoral schools in engineering?</p>

<p>The full ranking is posted somewhere on this site.</p>

<p>Rose is a very techie school, that's true. (Yeah, we're all engineers or scientists) But it's not true that our student population is strictly introverted video game nerds.</p>

<p>Have you actually visited the campus or talked to students?</p>

<p>I know very few people who are dissatisfied with their life here. Sure the workload can kind of be a killjoy, but that's pretty true for most engineering programs.</p>

<p>The fact that we have a much smaller student body makes the community on campus much more personal and friendly and that's something I like. I do not regret at all my decision not to go to Michigan, Purdue, UIUC, or any of those other big schools. I can understand though that some people like the big schools, and that's fine with me. (I don't exactly understand why, but whatever floats your boat)</p>

<p>I apologize for necroposting. MODs, feel free to delete this post if I'm commenting too late in the game.</p>

<p>I'm a Rose student, so please take the following comments with a grain of salt. I will attempt to answer the OP's question: why is Rose-Hulman ranked so highly? I have seen three main factors in our ranking:</p>

<p>1) Personal attention. Rose has a lot of programs set up that are entirely devoted to helping struggling students succeed. The Sophomore Advisors exist to help freshmen adjust to life at Rose and have a fun first year. There is a learning center where students can go almost any hour of the day to get a personal tutor to help them with their homework. Class sizes are all quite small, which allows students to ask questions directly to the PhD who's presenting the material. In fact, these professors are so important to my answer that they deserve their own section.</p>

<p>2) The professors. Rose professors aren't necessarily the most well-published or famous professors in the US. But they all share one thing in common: they love teaching. Every prof's number one goal is to help students learn. They do engage in professional development and research, but not nearly as much as professors at other schools. Most Rose profs have an open-door policy, meaning that they will keep their office doors open when they aren't in class for students to come in and ask questions. I've known some professors who'll give out their home phone numbers to the class, just in case they have emergency questions about tests.</p>

<p>3) That fuzzy feeling. There's a sense of family that everyone -- professors, students, and staff -- try to engender. Dormitories have open-door policies that encourage students to leave their rooms open during the hours they're not asleep or in class. Every Friday, professors leave their dining room to eat with the students in the big cafeteria. We have a number of talent shows that involve faculty, staff, and students who showcase their talents. All these combine to make Rose have a nice, family atmosphere.</p>

<p>These three aspects are not easy to find at big schools in the area, such as UIUC, UMich, or Purdue. All three are excellent schools...they're just different from Rose.</p>

<p>I'm sure that other schools have these two points. Places like Harvey Mudd, Olin, and Rice come into mind. And many people make good points: I imagine that Harvey Mudd IS more selective than Rose, at this point. And its reputation may be higher. But at such a high level, I believe that these small differences don't amount to a whole lot. At this level, a person's success after college depends on how hard he tried during school, not which school he went to. For example, a smart kid from Harvey Mudd will OBVIOUSLY know more than a slacker from Rose, and vice versa.</p>

<p>Again, sorry for necroposting. I hope I make sense!</p>

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Does anyone have the full US News ranking of non-doctoral schools in engineering?

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<p>Best Undergraduate Engineering Programs
(At schools whose highest degree is a bachelor's or master's)
Rank/School Peer
assessment
score
( 5.0 = highest)</p>

<ol>
<li>Harvey Mudd College (CA) 4.4
Rose-Hulman Inst. of Tech. (IN) 4.4</li>
<li>Cooper Union (NY) 4.0
United States Military Academy (NY)* 4.0
United States Naval Academy (MD)* 4.0</li>
<li>Cal Poly–San Luis Obispo * 3.9</li>
<li>Bucknell University (PA) 3.7
United States Air Force Acad. (CO)* 3.7</li>
<li>Embry Riddle Aeronautical U. (FL) 3.5
Milwaukee School of Engineering 3.5
Villanova University (PA) 3.5</li>
<li>Kettering University (MI) 3.3
Lafayette College (PA) 3.3
San Jose State University (CA)* 3.3
Swarthmore College (PA) 3.3</li>
<li>Calif. State Poly. Univ.–Pomona * 3.2
Embry Riddle Aeronautical U.–Prescott (AZ) 3.2
United States Coast Guard Acad. (CT)* 3.2
Univ. of Colo.–Colorado Springs * 3.2</li>
<li>Baylor University (TX) 3.1
Bradley University (IL) 3.1
Gonzaga University (WA) 3.1
Loyola Marymount University (CA) 3.1
Rowan University (NJ)* 3.1
Union College (NY) 3.1
University of Michigan–Dearborn * 3.1
Valparaiso University (IN) 3.1
Webb Institute (NY) 3.1</li>
<li>Santa Clara University (CA) 3.0
Seattle University 3.0
St. Louis University 3.0
Trinity University (TX) 3.0
U.S. Merchant Marine Acad. (NY)* 3.0
University of Portland (OR) 3.0
University of San Diego 3.0</li>
<li>Boise State University (ID)* 2.9
California State U.–Los Angeles * 2.9
California State U.–Northridge * 2.9
The Citadel (SC)* 2.9
Mercer University (GA) 2.9
Northern Arizona University * 2.9
Purdue University–Calumet (IN)* 2.9
Smith College (MA) 2.9
Univ. of Massachusetts–Dartmouth * 2.9
University of Minnesota–Duluth * 2.9
Virginia Military Institute * 2.9</li>
<li>California State U.–Long Beach * 2.8
California State U.–Sacramento * 2.8
Indiana U.-Purdue U.–Fort Wayne * 2.8
Miami University–Oxford (OH)* 2.8
Oregon Inst. of Technology * 2.8
University of Detroit Mercy 2.8
University of St. Thomas (MN) 2.8</li>
<li>California Maritime Academy * 2.7
Hofstra University (NY) 2.7
Maine Maritime Academy * 2.7
Manhattan College (NY) 2.7
Northern Illinois University * 2.7
Ohio Northern University 2.7
Univ. of Wisconsin–Platteville * 2.7</li>
<li>California State U.–Fullerton * 2.6
Cedarville University (OH) 2.6
Fairleigh Dickinson Univ. (NJ) 2.6
Grove City College (PA) 2.6
Hope College (MI) 2.6
Loyola College in Maryland 2.6
Montana Tech of the Univ. of Mont. * 2.6
New York Inst. of Technology 2.6
Norwich University (VT) 2.6
Penn State–Erie, Behrend Col. * 2.6
Texas Christian University 2.6
Trinity College (CT) 2.6
University of Alaska–Anchorage * 2.6
Univ. of Arkansas–Little Rock * 2.6
University of Evansville (IN) 2.6
Univ. of Missouri–St. Louis * 2.6
Univ. of Tennessee–Chattanooga * 2.6
University of the Pacific (CA) 2.6
Widener University (PA) 2.6
Youngstown State University (OH)* 2.6</li>
<li>California State Univ.–Chico * 2.5
Calvin College (MI) 2.5
Grand Valley State University (MI)* 2.5
LeTourneau University (TX) 2.5
Minnesota State University–Mankato * 2.5
Murray State University (KY)* 2.5
North Carolina A&T State Univ. * 2.5
Pennsylvannia State U.–Harrisburg * 2.5
San Francisco State University * 2.5
Southern Illinois U.–Edwardsville * 2.5
St. Cloud State University (MN)* 2.5
SUNY–Maritime College * 2.5
Texas A&M Univ.–Galveston * 2.5
Tri-State University (IN) 2.5
University of Hartford (CT) 2.5
University of Wisconsin–Stout * 2.5
Western New England College (MA) 2.5
West Virginia U. Inst. of Tech. * 2.5</li>
<li>denotes a public school.</li>
</ol>

<p>R-H and H Mudd are ranked so highly among non-doctoral engineering programs because the top engineering programs are, for the most part, at doctoral-level universities. In other words, they're anomalies.</p>