What schools have guaranteed admission?

[DougBetsy]

<p>I asked this in another thread. But, on second thought, it probably deserves it's own space. </p>

<p>How does one find schools with guaranteed admission? There are community colleges, of course. But, what about 4-year institutions? </p>

<p>I live in Maryland and don't know of any of our publics that guarantee admission based on certain minimum stats. </p>

<p>So, where are these schools? As mentioned in the other thread, they're great safeties.</p>

[happymomof1]

<p>Many state universities have guaranteed admissions for in-state students with certain statistics. The last time I checked, Iowa State, U of Iowa, and U of Northern Iowa all guaranteed admission for some in-state students.</p>

<p>In Maryland, the community colleges are basically open admission, and students who complete one of the formal articulation agreements are guaranteed admission to the public U in that agreement. Not every community college offers every articulation program. The Maryland Higher Education Commission publishes a nifty guide “College 411” that should be available in your HS guidance office. Up to date info is also available at [Maryland</a> Higher Education Commission Home Page](<a href=“http://www.MDgo4it.org%5DMaryland”>http://www.MDgo4it.org)</p>

[osucowboys]

<p>Right. Most Big 12 schools are this way actually. University of Oklahoma and Oklahoma State have automatic admissions for students scoring a 24 on the ACT and making a 3.0 GPA. For OOS students, I the ACT remains the same but the GPA goes up to 3.25–this is because there is special finaid available to offset the higher OOS cost because so many OU/OSU students come from the DFW area, such as myself.</p>

<p>I also believe KU and KSU work that way, as do Iowa and ISU, and Arkansas. A lot of private schools work this way, too…believe it or not. The problem with that is that a lot of them actually do use minimum requirements despite claiming not to in order to bolster their prestige. There is sometimes no way to tell except by rumor. I remember when it was exposed that TCU does that a few months ago…</p>

<p>I actually like the automatic admissions way better. This usually lets the potential applicant to determine for himself whether he will be accepted or not. It hurts a schools prestige because you can look at their stats and say, hey this school accepts 85% of all applicants, that’s not very prestigious. But in reality it’s amazing that a school with automatic admissions still has to reject ANY applicants at all because they’re just too dumb to look at the admission requirements that are clearly posted OR they think they will be some magical exception to that rule.</p>

[hotasice]

<p>Texas has a top 10% law that applies to UT-Austin and Texas A&M (as well as all other TX public universities)–if you’re in the top 10% of your high school class, you have guaranteed admission to any state university in TX of your choice.</p>

[hotasice]

<p>^ Sorry, just to clarify–the top 10% law applies to only in-state Texas residents and (obviously) in-state universities in Texas.</p>

[osucowboys]

<p>Texas Ten is a controversial rule that many claim makes it easier for ghetto school students to get a UT/A&M education that for students graduating from highly competitive high schools. This IS affirmative action by every means, the only difference, is that “technically” it is color-blind, but really it isn’t. Because of the rule UT’s Hispanic population is up 35% and the African American population is up 30%.</p>

<p>The Texas Ten rule has ruined UT’s admissions. Because all of these students are guaranteed automatic admission, 81% of their students come in because of this rule. That’s more in-state students than any university has a right to have, let alone from a SINGLE reason. It’s utterly ridiculous. </p>

<p>In this article UT’s president complains about how it prevents UT from being able to recruit promising high school students beyond Texas, as well as promising students IN Texas that don’t fall under the rule.
[Texas</a> college 10 percent rule under fire yet again | Top stories | Chron.com - Houston Chronicle](<a href=“http://www.chron.com/disp/story.mpl/front/4663691.html]Texas”>http://www.chron.com/disp/story.mpl/front/4663691.html)</p>

[Keilexandra]

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@osucowboys

That’s more in-state students than any university has a right to have

While I happen to agree with you that the Texas Ten rule is unfair to Texas high school students–purely because of the sole focus on class rank–a public university has the right to take 100% in-staters if it wishes.</p>

[Eidda]

<p>^ yeah and the rule is awful for texas private schools who don’t rank. Most of the qualified students from private school get capped / rejected because there isn’t enough space because the top 10 % takes up so much :[</p>

<p>/rant</p>

[modestmelody]

<p>Actually, OSUcowboys, according to all measure, students accepted on the Texas Ten rule are far more likely to be successful at UT than those not accepted under the Texas Ten rule. Additionally, while it hurts some communities, it has made tremendous strides in “fixing” the achievement gap in Texas. It hasn’t “ruined” UT, even if it has taken the admissions department out of the loop just like any other guaranteed admissions policy does.</p>

<p>[News:</a> 10% Admissions – the Full Impact - Inside Higher Ed](<a href=“http://www.insidehighered.com/news/2009/04/06/texas]News:”>http://www.insidehighered.com/news/2009/04/06/texas)</p>

<p>[News:</a> The 10% Fight Is Back - Inside Higher Ed](<a href=“http://www.insidehighered.com/news/2009/01/12/tenpercent]News:”>http://www.insidehighered.com/news/2009/01/12/tenpercent)</p>

<p>[The</a> Quick and the Ed](<a href=“http://www.quickanded.com/2009/03/talented-tenth.html]The”>http://www.quickanded.com/2009/03/talented-tenth.html)</p>

<p>Key point from the last post:</p>

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This would all be some feel-good diversity policy if the ten percent students failed to produce results. In fact, they earn higher freshmen grades and stay in school and graduate at higher rates than students accepted by all other methods, even ones with higher SAT scores. In other words, the ten percent admissions policy does a better job of screening applicants than the university’s own admissions office.

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<p>Essentially, if you read those articles, students who would have gotten into UT in the past with almost 100% certainty did not even apply because they were disenfranchised due to a lack of social capital. This is precisely the kind of problem that maintains the differences between races in America. The UT law, for all the moaning, accepts more students who perform better from a more diverse set of Texas state residents, who are precisely the target benefactors of having a public education system.</p>

[osucowboys]

<p>Disingenuous point to bring up. Are you saying you’re actually surprised that the top 10% perform better academically? Of course the top 10% are categorically going to be a little more likely to perform better than the next-best 10% are. That’s why the rule isn’t called the Texas 10-20%, although that wouldn’t be slightly more stupid.</p>

<p>I would argue that the top 10% are likely to be less involved in school sports and EC’s and that a Texas 10-20% rule would be better. But I wouldn’t because I don’t want to see any class-rank guarantee rule.</p>

[DougBetsy]

<p>So, back to the original question, we see that the following schools/states have guaranteed admission programs:</p>

<p>Arkansas
Iowa State
University of Iowa
University of Northern Iowa
Kansas University
Kansas State University
Maryland – some formal articulation agreements between certain community colleges and state U’s. (<a href=“http://mhec.maryland.gov/publications/StudentOutreachKit/411Guide09-10.pdf[/url]”>http://mhec.maryland.gov/publications/StudentOutreachKit/411Guide09-10.pdf&lt;/a&gt;)
University of Oklahoma (24 ACT & 3.0 GPA)
Oklahoma State (24 ACT & 3.0 GPA)
University of Texas at Austin (top 10% of class in-state)
Texas A&M (top 10% of class in-state)</p>

<p>Any place else? Please provide the criteria if you know it. Thanks.</p>

[B_Man_22]

<p>Community College.</p>

[osucowboys]

<p>Do community colleges even have admissions departments?</p>

[osucowboys]

<p>KU’s admissions requirements are here:
[KU:</a> Office of Admissions and Scholarships](<a href=“http://www.admissions.ku.edu/requirements/freshmen.shtml]KU:”>http://www.admissions.ku.edu/requirements/freshmen.shtml)</p>

<p>Damn those are low! 21 ACT -or- 2.0 GPA. OOS applicants just need a 24 ACT -or- a 2.5 GPA…is this for real? I thought KU was supposed to be creeping up on the Public Ivies or whatever.</p>

[StevenSeagal]

<p>Oregon State University has guaranteed admission if you’re instate and have a 3.something (5? maybe lower) I think</p>

[endlessrecession]

<p>University of Georgia has a similar program from in-state students with a 3.0. Which makes it a great deal, since its a very good flagship school.</p>

[DougBetsy]

<p>Updated List:</p>

<p>Community Colleges
University of Arkansas
University of Georgia (3.0 for instate)
Iowa State
University of Iowa
University of Northern Iowa
Kansas University (21 ACT or 2.0 instate; 24 ACT or 2.5 OOS)
Kansas State University
Maryland – some formal articulation agreements between certain community colleges and state U’s. (<a href=“http://mhec.maryland.gov/publication...Guide09-10.pdf[/url]”>http://mhec.maryland.gov/publication...Guide09-10.pdf&lt;/a&gt;)
University of Oklahoma (24 ACT & 3.0 GPA)
Oklahoma State (24 ACT & 3.0 GPA)
Oregon State University (3.X for instate)
University of Texas at Austin (top 10% of class in-state)
Texas A&M (top 10% of class in-state)</p>

[osucowboys]

<p>Except the deal with Kansas is your high school curriculum has to be approved by them. So you probably have to have some form of Creationism appear somewhere on your Transcript…lol</p>

[dudedad]

<p>Not sure if U of Iowa still has this for OOS with the bar raised a little higher than instate, but still an admissions lock if you have a certain number of “points.”</p>

[Keilexandra]

<p>University of Delaware, for in-state students who meet a complicated set of requirements ([Commitment</a> to Delawareans](<a href=“In-State Freshmen | University of Delaware”>In-State Freshmen | University of Delaware)). It’s not technically a “guarantee,” but a de facto guarantee.</p>

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It is as close to a “guarantee” as we can make it. While no university can guarantee admission until a student has submitted a complete application, we can lay out what you need to do in middle school and grades 9 through 12 if you want to give yourself the best chance of being admitted. Our intention is to help Delaware students, parents, teachers and guidance counselors answer the question, “How can students best prepare themselves for admission into the University of Delaware?”

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