<p>Has she visited A&M? I was prepared to hate it for ds1 and ended up falling in love. If she hasn’t toured, you must get her there.</p>
<p>fire123 - Yes, I’m aware…and I’m trying to be delicate here - but acceptance to either engineering school is GREAT and a great opportunity. In my opinion, not to be thrilled for a kid to be accepted to one of the top engineering schools in the nation would be sort of…silly. I don’t care where your “loyalties” lie. You have to think about what’s really good for the kid. </p>
<p>My dad went to TAMU, my cousins went to TAMU, TAMU blood runs deep. But if my kid REALLY wanted to go to UT and was accepted to their engineering program, I would be thrilled for her! I mean, C’MON!!! I’d tease her a bit - but I would be thrilled.</p>
<p>xiggi, unfortunately, if OP is not an auto-admit, the chances are not “just as good as the sea of auto admits”.</p>
<p>Auto-admits are in.</p>
<p>Those who are not are often out.</p>
<p>I know a LOT of kids that graduated with my kids who missed being in the top 8% by 2 students in a class of 450, had tons of AP/Dual/EC’s and were NOT admitted.</p>
<p>Now they made room for them in Dallas or San Antonio, but that’s not really what they were after.</p>
<p>OP should apply OF COURSE…and should keep the spirits up, but no…the chances are not as good at all. OP is right. Fair chance of being rejected/redirected.</p>
<p>One more question, does applying earlier help? If I turn in the app this week, will it help over someone turning it in last minute?</p>
<p>Cromette, you have to read my comment in its context, and that context is the one of a successful application to the engineering department. As it is a specific application, the chances of the OP are about the same as the ones who earned a spot via the top 7 or 8 percent. Obviously, a student that is ranked 1-2 in his or her class has a better chance statistically than one who is ranked lower, but there are other elements that might come into play and are not part of every ranking. One could do very well with a very high SAT or ACT and a number of AP scores or EC that demonstrate a higher than average aptitude for engineering. </p>
<p>As far as kids missing the auto-admit by a whisper, some of us have learned to take that news with a grain of salt. As we know, TAMU accepts students from the top 25 percent as long as they score over 1300 on the SAT and 600 on Math and English. Students who have high SAT scores or other competitive advantages do not have a hard time earning a spot in Austin. The Fisher lawsuit spoke volumes about the type of student who does not make it!</p>
<p>Of course, a student who relies almost exclusively on the power of the top XX percent auto-admit might not fare that well if he or she misses out. </p>
<p>But again, this conversation was about the admission to Cockrell, and not the auto-admission at UT.</p>
<p>I understand what you’re saying. Hopefully if I don’t get into cockerel I can at least get into CS</p>
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<p>Texas A&M in-state tuition is $9,006 per year. Other costs are $12,575 per year, for a total of $21,581 before any financial aid or scholarships.</p>
<p><a href=“https://financialaid.tamu.edu/Cost/COA_Undergrad.aspx[/url]”>https://financialaid.tamu.edu/Cost/COA_Undergrad.aspx</a></p>
<p>Yes. So assuming I get absolutely no scholarships, which probably unlikely, I walk out with 36k debt. I’m ok with that</p>
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<p>I think you have it backwards! 
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<p>We are the opposite. And teasing and Aggie is easier! I will be happy where ever my kid ends up. Well not really. He could pick OU.</p>
<p>^^ The max debt you could walk out with is $27K (the Direct loan number). Anything else would be cosigned or a loan to your parents, or money you made up working.</p>
<p>I have a personal prejudice against Oklahoma. Only good they have is Kevin Durant, and he came out of Texas ;)</p>
<p>Four generations of my family have gone to UT, but honestly, you would be fine at either school. I also have my grandfather’s diploma from A&M on my wall.</p>
<p>UT and A&M even collaborate - the Center for Transportation Research is a good example.</p>
<p>Now OU is an entirely different story! :)</p>
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Be prepared. You may or may not get any scholarship especially at UT.
A son of a friend of mine who got accepted to Cockrell 2 years ago said he got a decent scholarship (decent not great) . He was top ~3% .
This past year I hear that it’s very hard.
My D who is top 1% was offer $1K . Her valedictorian friend gets 1st year tuition per law only.</p>
<p>I hear that TAMU is easier but I don’t have the numbers.</p>
<p>I forgot to mention.
Do apply for outside scholarships, you may get luckier.
My D was offer 5 or 6 outside scholarships, range from $1 to $3 K each. Many of them are for In-state students only.</p>
<p>Yes if you apply earlier your odds are better. 
And do apply to other schools than these two if only because of financial aid . If you’re admitted and can afford it great for you but if you’re admitted but have a primarily loan package you’ll be glad to have applied elsewhere. You never know - some private school may end up offering more not to mention Alabama’s scholarships for OOS. If TAMU is your safety and UT your reach apply to 2.3 match schools.</p>
<p>Ok, I am extremely confused about the Texas state school admissions process… I have been under the impression that its not rolling admissions, but some of you talk like that… Is it different for in-state and out of state? I am familiar with the top 7% rule, etc…</p>
<p>I’m equally as confused. </p>
<p>What match schools might you suggest? Most other schools in TX are safeties. I’d like to go OOS to the east coast or California, but I need to find a school with good aid or that’s affordable</p>
<p>“One more question, does applying earlier help? If I turn in the app this week, will it help over someone turning it in last minute?”</p>
<p>YES! If you turn it in last minute, you run a very real risk of not get into General Engineering. Engineering fills up fast, and when it’s full, it’s full. If you are an auto-admit, you are guaranteed a spot in TAMU…but not necessarily in engineering.</p>
<p>“Ok, I am extremely confused about the Texas state school admissions process… I have been under the impression that its not rolling admissions, but some of you talk like that… Is it different for in-state and out of state? I am familiar with the top 7% rule, etc…”</p>
<p>Rolling admissions would be a school by school thing, I would suppose. TAMU, at large, is rolling admissions. Their engineering school is MOSTLY rolling admissions (up to 85% or 90% full). That means, if you don’t get in early, you could wind up going into a competitive review, or just wind up in General Studies having to try to transfer into engineering later, which is very difficult.</p>
<p>The rules for OOS students also vary from school to school. All Texans graduating in the top 10% of their high school class are guaranteed a spot at any of Texas’ public colleges/universities with the exception of UT. I believe UT is at top 8% this fall.</p>
<p>At TAMU, if you are OOS you can still qualify as an ACADEMIC admit, as xiggi, I believe has stated. If you graduated in the top 25% of your class, and you received a 1300 SAT (CR & M), with a minimum of 600 in each, then you’re in…again, to TAMU, but not necessarily to engineering.</p>
<p>xiggi, wouldn’t OP FIRST have to actually be admitted to UT? And THEN to Cockrell? My point is that I know many who have not made it, although they were right on the cusp of the percentage, with 1300+ SATs and lots of ECs and AP/Dual classes and high gpas. I’m talking about people who were a fraction over the percentage mark. And they were NOT like the fairly mediocre Fisher who was well over the percentage mark…not at all. (Fisher was in the top 12% of her class and scored 1180 on her SAT) I actually take a bit of offense to that characterization.</p>
<p>UT is a fairly tough school to get into if you’re not in the top 8%.</p>