<p>I am not delusional, I know my shots are slim at both of theses schools, but I want to apply to one of these two to... to press my luck. I guess, I'm a gambler.</p>
<p>I have an SAT score of 1820 and a 3.48 UW (3.80 or 3.88 W, by UC's weighting, I'm not quiet sure), and some good EC's. I want to major in Political science. I have some other criteria, by which these schools are essentially equal. </p>
<p>Should I gamble at Cal or UCLA?</p>
<p>Uh, so what would make you pick one? If you’re hoping to get into one, why not double your (slim) chances, and apply to both?</p>
<p>Head on over to the UC website to learn how to calculate your UC GPA.</p>
<p>You know that the UC have a common application and that adding one more UC is really just a matter of checking one more box and paying another fee…</p>
<p>It’s 3.80. I estimate my odds of getting into either at about 10/1. Am I over estimating, under estimating or about right?</p>
<p>Apply to both. </p>
<p>It’s difficult to tell your chances. Who knows? You might write a compelling essay that will win them over. Your chances aren’t terrible though, I’d think a bit better than 1/10.</p>
<p>The most recent class with full statistical breakdown on the UCLA website is Fall 2008.
Only 5% of the group with UC GPAs of 3.7-3.99 were admitted.</p>
<p>Here’s what is important to know: UCLA will be admitting the Fall 2010 class “holistically”. For what this means officially, read the detailed description on their website. Unofficially, this means you should adjust your statistical analysis based on soft factors beyond your numbers.</p>
<p>Also, I would not suggest an email address that includes “SC” in it for your UCLA application, sclindsay.</p>
<p>doesn’t stand for USC, I’d hate to go to USC. </p>
<p>It’s weird I have rivalries already in me from schools that are opposite of what I want to go to EG I’d hate to go to Texas A&M because it’s so conservative, in a small area ect., and I just happen to be applying to UT, my dislike of Texas A&M (No offense to anyone going there) will fit me well if I end up at Texas. Same with Penn State, UWV and Pitt, Washington State and Udub and potentially USC and UCLA. Complete coincidence.</p>
<p>Lindsay,
According to the College View statistics on this site here are some admission numbers for you…</p>
<p>California-Berkeley Combined Scores for Incoming Class of 2009</p>
<p>SAT Combined ACT Combined
1985 28</p>
<pre><code>UCLA Combined Scores for Incoming Class of 2009
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<p>SAT Combined ACT Combined
1903 27</p>
<p>Does Berkeley also do holistic admissions as well?</p>
<p>Sorry for being too lazy to go look it up.</p>
<p>I apologize for the assumption, sclindsay.</p>
<p>doptaa, UC Berkeley will be admitting students using what they call “comprehensive review”. The interesting details are on their website. Cal says that they are seeking “diversity in personal background and experience”, among other subjective factors. Prop 209 still prevents all UC admissions offices from legally considering race or ethnicity.</p>
<p>Instead of concentrating on UCB and UCLA, why not look into which UC school offers the best Poli Sci program? I don’t believe UCB is exactly famous for Poli Sci (or are they?). Also, UCB and UCLA are by far the most difficult UCs to get into. They have their own points system based on 10th and 11th grade gpa, number of honors and AP courses, SAT score (with higher points given to scores above 2000) and whether you are in the top 4%of your high school class at the end of your junior year. Don’t forget to check out the other UCs. What about UCSD (also not easy to get into), UCI, UC, etc.?</p>
<p>Berkeley’s ranked 2nd in the country UCLA is ranked 8th, UCLA is also tied with Ohio State as having the most alumni in congress.</p>
<p>out of public schools that is</p>
<p>Do you already plan on applying to less selective UCs, and are just wondering about UCB/UCLA? I believe both of these schools do use a holistic review, so if you have other strengths it would be beneficial. </p>
<p>Is it possible to retake the SATs though? If you studied for them and got 2100+, it would help your chances.</p>
<p>I’m also applying to Santa Cruz, and a bunch of out of state publics, I’m bating whether or not I should retake, because with the scores I have I’m at least a decent contender at all the other schools that I am applying to. I don’t know if I could get 2100, I could probably get about 1950, maybe 2000, 2100 might be out of reach.</p>
<p>Yes you probably should apply to all if not most of the UC’s. I think your chances increase if your like in the top ten percent.</p>