<p>Woah woah for real? Then why the hell do so many people here reccomend it like it’s the god of all sat math section? What prep book should I get that focuses and will help me improve in math quite a bit for the sat then?</p>
<p>Yeah I ordered Dr Chung today. Should get here by next week. I am going to finally see what the hype is about. </p>
<p>Keep us posted jd98989898</p>
<p>Gosh thanxx so much for the useful info about Gruber’s Maths. I seriously wonder why so many ppl recommend it …</p>
<p>I think that gruber’s is good for people in the 500/600s. But if you are already in the 700s than Dr.chung is a better choice.</p>
<p>I bought this book for D1 but she never opened it. She did 11 PR practice tests and all the BlueBook tests. She’s not a math person(almost got D in AP Calculus) but she received 800 in Math on her SAT 1.</p>
<p>Cut the hyperbole and get your facts straight. </p>
<p>First, the problem that your talking about is in the “Introduction” section, not the math section, or the meat and potatoes section of the book, if you will. It’s a 3 page “digression” in a book that’s 1000 pages long. </p>
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<p>Second, the problem asks you to compare 355 * 356 and 354 * 357, not the numbers that you typed. </p>
<p>If you prefer, you can always punch in the numbers on a calculator. </p>
<p>Granted, I would probably punch the numbers in during the real thing, but the larger goal is to get the student to see that not every SAT math problem can be solved with a calculator - one often has to resort to non-conventional methods. </p>
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<p>Give me an example of an abstraction in the math section. </p>
<p>I’m looking at my Gruber’s book right now and the “Math Refresher” section has numerous concrete problems. The geometry problems, for example, are all explained using the fundamental axioms. </p>
<p>As far as the section being “simple [sic] simple,” no book can tailor to your exact needs. No book knows where you are in terms of SAT math. </p>
<p>If you know about averages, skip that section. The Gruber’s book is conveniently organized sections, you know. </p>
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<p>Would you please point out an inaccuracy? Just FYI, inaccurate is not synonymous with unhelpful. </p>
<p>If it’s unhelpful, then I have nothing to say. If it’s inaccurate, please do point out the mistake. We don’t want to be mislead by the book, you know!</p>
<p>So far, you’ve given us one example and made several other grandiose claims on the basis of that one math problem. </p>
<p>I fail to see how a perfectly valid math problem has anything to do with the CR or W sections. </p>
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<p>Dr. Chung got me from a 670 to a 780, and would’ve gotten me to a perfect score had it not been for a simple bubbling error, which I will never, ever forget.</p>
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<p>“Cut the hyperbole and get your facts straight.”</p>
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<li>First of all, I didn’t use any hyperboles in my post (writing in Capital letters was to emphasize words, which are not hyperboles.) Also, I didn’t claim anything that I said to be “facts”, this is my opinion. I’m sorry if my numbers for the first problem were not completely analogous to the ones in the book, but I was just trying to get across the basic idea of the problem, which I accomplished.</li>
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<p>"First, the problem that your talking about is in the “Introduction” section, not the math section, or the meat and potatoes section of the book, if you will. It’s a 3 page “digression” in a book that’s 1000 pages long. I’m looking at my Gruber’s book right now and the “Math Refresher” section has numerous concrete problems. The geometry problems, for example, are all explained using the fundamental axioms. As far as the section being “simple [sic] simple,” no book can tailor to your exact needs. No book knows where you are in terms of SAT math. If you know about averages, skip that section. The Gruber’s book is conveniently organized sections, you know. "</p>
<p>I will go find more specific examples when I have time, but unfortunately I have to type this post quickly as I only have a few minutes. My main point was that the book delivers extremely simple concepts with unnecessary convolution. It seems that the concepts in this book only tailor to level 1-3, maybe level 4 occasionally problems- and for the students that would have trouble with them, the explanations would just confuse them even further.</p>
<p>“So far, you’ve given us one example and made several other grandiose claims on the basis of that one math problem.”</p>
<p>I fail to see how my claims were “grandiose”. I simply said the problems in this book were too simple in relation to the real SAT math section, I didn’t say “LOL im a math genius this stuff is for 2nd graders”. And again, I will find more examples to support my claim later, but trust me there are plenty that I saw ( I just don’t want to quote problems for which I can’t remember the exact numbers as I know that will irritate some people)…</p>
<p>“I fail to see how a perfectly valid math problem has anything to do with the CR or W sections.”</p>
<p>Please make it known where exactly I stated that a math problem directly contributed to the lackluster CR and W sections in this book. I know you won’t be able to, because I didn’t. But I guess i’ll tell you now… </p>
<p>The CR sections in this book seem to be written by someone who’s native language is not English and hardly parallel to actual SAT passages. Obviously practicing from passages that do not emulate the actual SAT passages will be detrimental to a student.</p>
<p>a hyperbole is an exaggeration and i agree with Qube.</p>
<p>Actually, the whole book ( I skimmed through) is easy. However, when I got to there practice tests, they were all harder then what he was teaching. So the book is pretty useless if he doesn’t teach the level of difficulty he put in the practice test.</p>
<p>So I agree with jd98989898</p>
<p>I bought the book. It’s extremely simple. I agree with jd98989898.
Team jd98989898</p>
<p>Can someone please tell me what book is than actually good for sat math?? I got a 560 on the first sat I took for math, and I want to raise it a lot I got the blue book and barrons 2400 but what book specifically is tailored for lots of math practice and questions?</p>
<p>I just bought the Gruber’s Complete guide, so it’s useless? I’m going to use it, it better help >.></p>
<p>The essays for the practice tests made me crazy confused. One was asking three different questions and told me to draw SPECIFICALLY from personal experience only. That annoyed me since that’s not a requirement for the real SAT. He also used one of his own quotes and asked me to agree or disagree with it. -.- I don’t think the book is completely useless, though… </p>
<p>Now for the math: I don’t do very well in the math section but I have noticed that ever since I started answering and examining Gruber’s math questions, the Blue Book math seems easier. I’ve also noticed that I’ve been getting correct SAT Questions of The Day in the math section that otherwise probably would have had me lying on the floor dying.</p>
<p>As for the W AND CR, I was getting 600’s and 700’s when I took the Blue Book practice tests, but when I took Gruber’s test, I got like a 520 W and a 490 CR!! Not to excuse a weak score in those areas, but I am inclined to believe that Gruber’s strategy is actually to make the questions more difficult than the real SAT so that when you take the real one the questions will seem like a breeze. I mean, is it just me or are Gruber’s grammar questions really killer?? The Blue Book grammar is soooo much easier. </p>
<p>Anyway, I’m one of those people who actually spent $30 on the book so I had to get as much use out of it as I could. Test test is in 36 hours or so!</p>