<p>Yes, you cannot leave out your time at Rutgers. Every application is going to ask you to list every school you have attended for college credit.</p>
<p>I see that you don't want to go back to Rutgers, but if you can be re-instated there, that seems to me to be your best option. Finish the BA and move on. Forget about "dream schools" etc. You are beyond that.</p>
<p>Will they re-admit you?</p>
<p>Well, as I have already explained earlier in the thread: </p>
<ol>
<li>I would not leave out my time at Rutgers even for a school that would allow it;</li>
<li>My desire to go to a top tier school has nothing to do with putting dream schools ahead of reality, which is why I am here talking to other dismissed students who have the same goals that I do, but have more experience with the CC transfer process;</li>
<li>I explained my status regarding potential reinstatement at Rutgers already.</li>
</ol>
<p>I can understand Dicey's feelings towards not wanting to try for reinstatement at Rutgers. I know someone who was academically dismissed from Rutgers. The Dept. in charge of the whole process even went about it the wrong way- from looking at the guidelines it looked like his rights as a student had been violated. This was brought to the attention of the Rutgers ombudsman, who is a lawyer employed by the university to act as a mediator between parties. The ombudsman said that while the dept. did admit they screwed up the academic dismissal process, the dismissal would stand. From what I gather, there really is no advocate for students in situations like that, and my friend told me that he was advised to hire a lawyer (which he did not have the money to do). </p>
<p>I wish I could offer you some help or advice Dicey, but all I can do is hope things work out best for you.</p>
<p>Rutgers is a mess on so many levels; jaw-dropping, infuriating failures on the part of their apathetic on-campus police department would be just one instance (in my case, apparently they don't take reports when crimes have been committed if you have removed yourself a few yards from the crime scene...you know, in order to not be hit by oncoming traffic? Their blase' response and refusal to do anything left me so frustrated that I called the New Brunswick police department to verify the Rutgers police's "policy" of nonchalance. Needless to say, I wasn't crazy; they were stunned and verified that I was obviously in the right). If I wasn't living hand-to-mouth and financially on my own, I would have plenty reason to contact a lawyer about the goings-on at that school. But the things that I have experienced there are not only inappropriate to discuss on this thread, but also too unbelievable for me to get into without being written off as a liar. Yes, some of the stuff is that outrageous, I'm not kidding. </p>
<p>Anyway, they have a fantastic philosophy department, and I'd recommend the school to anyone interested in the major, haha. </p>
<p>Also, to be fair (and to excuse myself from accusations of Rutgers-bashing), gross incompetence and lack of effort in maintaining the basic welfare of students is not unique to RU. Just take a look at what rape victims at Harvard had to say about being essentially revictimized by school officials all over again. One can probably find stories rightly vilifying the administration of any institution--ivy or public--but who knows which ones are unfortunate isolated instances, or which represent an accurate picture of an overall trend.</p>
<p>Anyhow, thanks for the support, Kal El. I wasn't going to even touch why I don't want anything to do with that school again, especially when I'm still trying to figure out how many other dismissed kids have been able to "trade up."</p>
<p>Dicey, you seem so easygoing and levelheaded. I'm sure you'd fit in and excel
at any elite college.</p>
<p>Yea, you do not want to omit your RU info. Not only will it be hard to explain the gap in your education, there is also a huge risk of having your admission revoked. This most likely will be true for any college, regardless of prestige.</p>
<p>Yeah, don't worry dshjyd, I have no intention of doing that! Someone was just pondering whether or not dismissed students ever take that road, though.... </p>
<p>I want to pack up those shiny 75 credits with my dismissal bags, but I'll probably have to leave 15 behind. Screw you anyway, psych classes! You wannabe science! </p>
<p>kdanieli - It's hard to extract the tone of forum comments, so I reread my rant and decided that, no, I don't sound insane. I will thus presume there was no sarcasm intended, and thank you. </p>
<p>Ha, ha. Ha, ha.</p>
<p>Ha!</p>
<p>Dicey, my buddy who got dismissed e-mailed me earlier today, and told me that on his official transcript it does NOT say "Academic Dismissal" or anything like that; so you should check yours to be sure. This is the official paper transcript he got from that administrative building on Busch, not the online one. Obviously his individual class grades and GPA per semester are there, so someone reviewing it might put 2 and 2 together, but because the process was not followed to the letter he might have a good argument to some other school he applies to.</p>
<p>He explained the dismissal itself was definitely official, as there was a committee who deliberated on his fate (naturally with him not even there or without his being given a chance to speak for himself), and the dismissal from the Dean's Office was sent to his home address by certified mail and regular mail. </p>
<p>I know you don't want to do this, but he did comment that a certain professor said that no one would know he was there if he didn't mention it.</p>
<p>Yeah, as far as ethics go, I can't say that not mentioning RU is too terrible a sin or anything like that. But what about my 75 A/B+ credits? I'm 24, and by the time I hypothetically get into another school, I'll be well into 25. I don't want another 4 years as an undergrad (or even longer, since I'd realistically have to be working full-time at some point). BTW, my transcript does say "Academic Dismissal" at the end of it.</p>
<p>That's too bad about your friend. They told me about coming in and standing up in front of some panel, but that seemed utterly impossible at that time. The Irish can barely eek a word out one-on-one with a professional counselor, much less a room full of onlookers who are there to formally judge you. That's an absurdly insensitive process to be asking of someone who clearly just went through something awful, not to mention a culturally insensitive practice! Ha ha. When will my oppressed people be understood?</p>
<p>Not exactly the same, but I was placed on academic warning at another NJ state school after a semester. I really hated it there and I was having a terrible time, and I wanted to leave. I talked to the dean of my school, and he suggested I retake a few courses to put me back in good standing so that my transcripts wouldn't say I was on academic warning. He was probably the coolest guy I met there.</p>
<p>Kind of funny, though, my mom keeps insisting that I apply to Rutgers. I've lived in central New Jersey for nearly seventeen years, and I just want to get out of here!</p>
<p>The acceptance of your transcript in other colleges will be complicated. Your weak grades will always affect you, it will always stay in your transcript and you will have to have other activities to balance out the poor grades.</p>
<p>Bitsypants - At least you clearly know what you want, and you're not on warning anymore! If you hate it there suddenly, don't let people talk you into staying. Definitely transfer, but do you research first so it's not a big useless upheaval. Or are you a junior/senior already?</p>
<p>Daniela - Well, of course, I knew it would affect me, obviously, hence the thread.... I'd like to know specifically how much so, especially since it was 2 years of good grades followed by a semester that was basically the marker for a personal event. I'd like to hear from people like me or who actually know something about this so they can tell me something legit and tangible from experience. Because I am waaay past the speculation phase of "oh, this is not good..." already... ;)</p>
<p>um…mmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm</p>
<p>hi im jessica i hav a question. i was dismissed from college for the fall semester because i had a low gpa. i was already on probation and for dis semester i was dismissed. now its december and i want to go to la guardia community college. what do i have to do to go back to college. i feel lost and i dont know where to start or where to go?/…someone help me please.</p>
<p>Hello, I was placed on academic dismissal at Mercyhurst College for the winter semester after being on academic probation. Im in my second year. This school works in trimesters. I had a gpa of 1.6, I know its absolutely horrible but now I am lost. I am ready to go back to school and change things but everyone including my mother has given up on me. Im from NYC & Even CC don’t accept anything lower than a 2.0, so what do I do ? How can I find my way back to school ?</p>