<p>and YES! Find out from them!</p>
<p>As disappointing as it is, it may be best to walk away and look at other options. I’ve seen 3 good ones just in this thread: the cc w/good music program, Saint Rose, and William Jewell. You may discover other colleges as well. You still have time to apply in the next few days, so go for it! Also, you haven’t yet heard from NYU. Somewhere along your path to a new option you will find exactly what you need. You just have to trust that these closed doors will ultimately open other windows. Take a deep breath and carry on with your head held high.</p>
<p>@pageturner - I’ll admit I butchered sightreading at Ithaca! As for Crane, the excerpt from a vocal solo that we had to sing immediately after our audition songs I felt I did good with. Not great, because there were parts I could hear I was wrong. I tried to show that I was listening intently by making a quick grimace if I heard something I did wrong, and I turned my head slightly toward the piano between phrases so I could pick up notes. As for the sightreading part, I matched the pitches fine. I did the sightreading lines fine. There were around 10 “short” lines that got increasingly difficult that the woman would play on piano ONCE and I had to sing back. I did fine the first 6, then once they got longer I took a nosedive. Note that what I had trouble with was length, not intervals or accidentals or anything.</p>
<p>@Sopranomom92 - Yeah, it’s terrible thinking about giving up on Crane… It’s been my first choice for as long as I could remember. So many of my music teachers throughout the years went there… =</p>
<p>Well, kiddo, sightreading was probably the deal breaker in both cases. Ithaca well known for having it be an important part of their audition, and it looks like Crane has followed suit. </p>
<p>Yes, there are a lot of great music teachers in New York who graduated from Crane. But, you know what? Lots of great teacher didn’t! Believe me, lots. </p>
<p>Take a good look at St. Rose. There is still some old information out there that it “isn’t up to par” or whatever, but I’ve seen some real quality going to and coming out of that school lately. It’s made some big changes. There are still audition dates available:</p>
<p>[Music</a> Department Auditions | The College of Saint Rose](<a href=“http://www.strose.edu/undergraduateadmissions/applying/freshman/article922]Music”>http://www.strose.edu/undergraduateadmissions/applying/freshman/article922)</p>
<p>Also:
[Transfer</a> Agreements with Four-year Colleges](<a href=“http://www.sunysccc.edu/adm-fin/admartic.htm]Transfer”>http://www.sunysccc.edu/adm-fin/admartic.htm)</p>
<p>Let us know what happens and what you decide to do.</p>
<p>I have a meeting with my guidance counselor tomorrow, so I’ll ask her about St. Rose while I’m there.</p>
<p>I’m also waiting for my Potsdam admission counselor to get back to me with a few questions I had.</p>
<p>So hopefully tomorrow I’ll be able to pull more info together and get closer to figuring out what I’m going to do. I’ll keep you guys updated, if you want.</p>
<p>riku92mr, keep us informed. We’re all rooting for you!</p>
<p>Following up the starting-at-a-community-college idea, Onondaga Community College in Syracuse has a music program (it appears that they actually have an Associate degree in Music), with articulation programs at several NY state bachelors programs (including Crane). And, they do have dorms. Might be worth a look/email/phone call:
[Onondaga</a> Community College](<a href=“http://www.sunyocc.edu/program.aspx?title=2561&menu=184&type=6793&id=6541&news=102&ekmensel=c580fa7b_184_295_btnlink]Onondaga”>http://www.sunyocc.edu/program.aspx?title=2561&menu=184&type=6793&id=6541&news=102&ekmensel=c580fa7b_184_295_btnlink)</p>
<p>riku,</p>
<p>A word of advice about the sightreading: lose the grimace when you make a mistake. To be good at sightreading, you need to be thinking about what is coming up in the music rather than what is happening right now or what just happened a moment ago. Doing a little act to let them know that you know you screwed up is not going to help you and will just reinforce in the listeners’ minds that you made a mistake. Treat all auditions as performances, whether you are singing scales, prepared pieces or sight reading. When all is said and done, it is better to leave the audience (i.e. your audition judges) with the impression that what you have done is the easiest, most natural thing in the world rather than the impression that you are sweating your way through something really hard. Believe me, those judges know what you are going through and the way to impress them is to bring off a total performance in spite of any mishaps and to look as though you are enjoying what you are doing. The compliment you are looking for is, “You made that look so easy that anyone could do it,” rather than “Wow, how can anyone do something that hard”.</p>
<p>Riku - regarding NYU: Don’t give up hope just yet. The state colleges are being overwhelmed with applicants in all disciplines due to the economy. Conversely, it would be my guess that some of the private schools are noticing a decrease in applications. Hang in there!</p>
<p>I second BeezMom’s advice. A friend of mine (violin, music Ed), got rejected from a school she thought was a good bet, and then got into her reach school! Another friend (violin, performance) got into only her safety and NYU, which ended up being the perfect fit. Don’t give up hope! (i’m waiting for my letter from them for violin performance, so I know how you feel!!)</p>
<p>Contacted a few vocal coaches at Crane… waiting on responses!</p>
<p>Does anyone know if there’s anything going on there? I sent an email to Brittany Toth (my freshman admissions counselor) on Thursday, and no reply yet. Every other time I got a reply within the day!</p>
<p>Spring Break began March 5th. Classes resume Monday March 15th.</p>
<p>They are travelling around doing regional Q&A meetings around NY. Tuesady was LI, Wednesday NYC, Thursday Westchester, etc… Not sure of her on-line availability this week. Also, the crane kids are off for break until Monday. Brittany is pretty good with her email so I’m sure you will hear in a day or two. The Crane profs are definitely off this past week (or at least they have no students around) until Monday.</p>
<p>Ahh okay, makes sense. Thanks for the info :).</p>
<p>Still no word from Brittany… Anyone know whats up?</p>
<p>Nope, why don’t you try calling the admissions office and leaving her a message or speaking with one of the admissions reps in the office. Everyone is very friendly up there.</p>
<p>I was specifically looking for this one <a href=“http://talk.collegeconfidential.com/music-major/476781-what-happens-if-you-not-accepted-any-schools.html?highlight=insurance[/url]”>http://talk.collegeconfidential.com/music-major/476781-what-happens-if-you-not-accepted-any-schools.html?highlight=insurance</a> back when I posted the links in post #4 and could not find it.</p>
<p>I’m adding it now for future reference, not to resurrect this thread.</p>
<p>Ok continuing this thread rather than starting a new one. My daughter has been receiving disappointing results (so far). Two acceptances, but neither is what she is really looking for, and wait-listed at a program that she has felt was a very good match. We are worried about her two reach schools. She decided at the last minute to apply to the late audition for Mannes, but now it turns out that her high school is on break until after their April 1 deadline. I don’t know if they will accept a late transcript and academic reference (she has written to them to ask). In any case the audition would not be until May 23, long after she would have needed to commit to another program (although I suppose we could forfeit the deposit, or how does that work? Are we obligated to pay a year’s tuition?) The other options is going to a school that isn’t a good fit, going with the idea of re-auditioning, or taking a gap year (losing health insurance, etc.) I’m so discouraged. I can imagine myself giving optimistic advice to another person in my shoes, but I admit to not having seen this coming.</p>
<p>Glassharmonica - I hate to sound overly perky - but your daughter was accepted to Indiana. How is that a disappointment? She could have a great experience there. I know two violinists there now - one undergrad, one in grad school (and they’re sharing the same stand in orchestra!) and both are very positive about the program. And both are very very good violinists, headed towards professional lives in music. Is that the school you feel is not a good fit? Perhaps if you pose the reasons on here you feel it wouldn’t work well for your daughter, those who may know more than I do, could chime in to either support your assumptions, or reassure you that you may be mistaken.</p>
<p>I believe any deposit would be non refundable after May 1, and it should be in the range of a few hundred dollars, maybe 500 tops. (It’s been a few years since we sent deposits, but I guessing based on $300 or so 5 plus years back since the last.) Separately, you might also have a housing deposit, as many schools are tight and allocate housing based on date of housing deposit. You would not have to pay tuition, the school would offer the spot to a waitlisted applicant, who would be one happy camper.</p>
<p>You mention two acceptances, the master shows only IU Jacobs. It’s a fine program, yet I realize there are many reasons it might not be on the top of her list. It might be helpful if you named the programs where she was not admitted, just for a basis of comparison. I can also understand a reluctance not to do so.</p>
<p>Regarding the transcript and recommendation, all you can do is ask. If they say “no”, consider the level of the “no”. You might need to go up a level or two and fight for it, and it will depend on how booked they are for late auditions. Transcripts and references can be expressed or overnighted and you may need to you sit on the high school to get it done expeditiously. The question is does Mannes fit her criteria, and teacher selection, or are you shooting in the dark with limited options? (If memory serves, I THINK there may be late dates at Peabody and/or and Oberlin.)</p>
<p>The other question is what schools have you yet to hear from? If they are all top flight programs, then a gap year may well be a viable option. I can pull gap year thread links if you wish. I recall a few posters that took or seriously contemplated this route.</p>