What to do with Cheaters?

<p>I know that everybody at once in their high school lives have witnessed blatant cheating or (perish the thought ;)) participated in it themselves.</p>

<p>Please read the following and give me some feedback on what I should do:</p>

<p>Well, my Spanish IV teacher is an extremely nice lady, a good teacher, yadda yadda but she is completely deaf and dumb when it comes to test security and cheating. </p>

<p>Last Friday, we had a major test and almost everybody was freaking out about it. About five minutes into the test, two girls who sat next to me started whispering the answers to each other while the teacher was engaged in conversation with other students (yes, she DOES talk to us during tests). The whispering continued for the whole period and it nearly drove me out of my mind because I despise cheaters and these two girls in particular are well known at my school as habitual cheaters.</p>

<p>In fact, I was so furious that I wanted to talk to the teacher after the test so that she would be aware of the rampant cheating in her class. But I'm not naive...If I did say anything, I would be socially crucified and ostracized b/c everyone would call me a squealer. High school would be even more of an...Inferno than it already is.</p>

<p>So anyways, I'm really conflicted because my sense of justice is very strong and I want to expose the cheaters, but I am also really apprehensive about sticking my neck out like that.</p>

<p>Have any of you ever been in situations like this? If so, what would you advise?</p>

<p>You could talk to your teacher in private and ask her to maintain confidentiality. Or you could go to your GC or assistant principal and tell them to tell the teacher and request them to maintain your confidentiality. These girls are undermining your grade in Spanish because you work hard while they get away with cheating.</p>

<p>You could leave an anonymous note for the teacher. Or make up an email address and email her anonymously.</p>

<p>Seriously, don't even bother with kids like that. Because when college comes they are the ones that are screwed not you. Let them learn their own lesson.</p>

<p>honestly, i would just let it go.</p>

<p>it may seem like the right thing to do would be to squeal, but everyone's been in a situation where they've done something similar in the past, and as long as you don't see it happening again, i wouldn't make a huge deal out of it.</p>

<p>maybe i'm the only one who feels this way, but i dunno...that's what i'd do.</p>

<p>Yeah, I've thought about doing this, but there's no way I can maintain confidentiality. You see, I've already threatened these girls with exposure before, so if my Spanish teacher suddenly accuses them of cheating, I'm pretty sure (actually beyond a doubt) that they'll know I was behind it. They are the Queen Bees of the school, so I'm sure they'll make my life miserable for the next two years if they get caught.</p>

<p>Thanks for taking the time to read this thread, but I just don't think I've got the guts to face the problem, no matter how indignant I feel.</p>

<p>Any other ideas?</p>

<p>Haha. You think that's bad?</p>

<p>The current senior class at my school had almost the entire grade (granted, it was 60 something people) involved in cheating. See, the first class who took a test would memorize the questions...and then e-mail the test out so the next class, people would end up with 100s.</p>

<p>One girl came out and told the principal, and it was this whole scandal where half the class got thrown out of NHS. Pretty funny, actually, since they'd long deserved it.</p>

<p>maybe if you spoke to your counselor to give the heads up to the teacher so she could independently keep an eye on the girls and bust them on her own?... in college i had a similar exxperience. some kids were dreadful cheaters and actually beat me out for medical school (better gpa and so got some of the special med school recs the school gives out) anyway i continued in the medical field and interestingly enough was able to witness 'what goes around comes around' when the docs were caught cheating medicare and medicaid and falsifying charts and had their licenses to practice medicine revoked and were on the front page of the papers etc...</p>

<p>SQUEALER! lol</p>

<p>Um, yeah. My highschool believes in "loving the cheater, hating the act"--->no detention for getting caught with test crib sheet, test answers, etc. Needless to say, I'm one of about 4 who don't tell people they cheat/proud of it.</p>

<p>Here's a good one: Biology Test Freshman Year (not even a highpressure/particulary hard one), and I walk out. Two girls tell me, "thanks for the answers, my mom will really appreciate the 100"...I tell my mom about it, she calls my bio teacher-says two girls cheated off me who sat near me, could she please crack down? The teacher responds by not punishing anyone or even moving my seat. In fact, she moves everyone closer together! Ah the justice of it all...</p>

<p>in another class, teacher gives a test 1st period...average score: about a 44. Girls get answers, sell them outside the door to next class. Teacher sees, lets kids take test. Only 2 kids didn't get a 100.</p>

<p>And they wonder why scores/sats/sat iis are low</p>

<p>Oh sorry, what I'd do??</p>

<p>Tell, and I second the poster who said to tell the teacher to bust them (it won't be the first or last time they cheated). Especially if you're confident your school will take action. Who cares? These girls are not your best friends. Make sure you do have a few friends to back you up, no matter what. </p>

<p>If you don't want to go the semi-public route, then somehow leave a message where teacher(s) will see it. </p>

<p>If you don't want to do anything like that, just know they'll get their just desserts. When the girl with a 100 average gets a 1100/2400 on her sats. :)</p>

<p>Tell the teacher. You have bigger fish to fry than worry about being a fink. I think bringing the cheaters' worlds crashing around their ears might send them a message.</p>

<p>Administration could sit in on tests if you complain. Then, the people couldn't cheat.</p>

<p>My word: don't worry about it. Who cares? They do what they like, you have too much morality. </p>

<p>They'll grow out of their cheating attitude sooner or later. Just worry about yourself.</p>

<p>Once again, thanks for reading the post...I don't feel as anxious about it anymore b/c you guys are right: what do I care? It's only going to hurt them in the end. Chances are, they might even get caught on their own accord.</p>

<p>And while I'd love to see the looks on their faces if I did tell, I still don't think it's worth it. I'll bow down to the eternal wisdom of Snoopy...I've got bigger fish to fry.</p>

<p>P.S. I can't wait to see them bawling on the AP exam! (I hear that proctors don't really take whispering answers to each other well, though this may be just a rumor ;)).</p>

<p>Thanks, guys! :)</p>

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WHo gives a ****.......Seriously, don't even bother with kids like that. Because when college comes they are the ones that are screwed not you. Let them learn their own lesson.

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Not always. they're generally the ones who continue cheating throughout their life.</p>

<p>Cheating to get into med school...and those people have others lives in their hands</p>

<p>sometimes to NOT say anything can be dangerous</p>

<p>would I want a doctor who cheats to get ahead...I think not...I would want a doctor with intergrity</p>

<p>as for the cheaters....can you ask the teacher to move your seat- can't see the board, or something...if you don't feel comfortable saying anything</p>

<p>I hate cheaters and it is amazing how many say ignore it...</p>

<p>People say to ignore it because in life there will /always/ be cheaters. And at some point, cheating is not going to get them by. You can't get your medical degree by cheating. Instead of worrying what other people are doing, worry about what are you doing. "Squealing" on cheaters is indicative of some kind of...well...it's hard to put into words. Like, you are angry with them because they're getting by "easy" while you work hard. It's some warped kind of jealousy. The truth is, those people who are cheating are probably /not/ doing well, so there is /nothing/ to feel angry about. If anything, I'd feel bad that they couldn't rely on their own intellect to get them by.</p>

<p>Like the OP said - bigger fish to fry.</p>

<p>Y'know, I suspect people who encourage the ignoring of cheating are the cheaters themselves. Pinning everything that the cheaters will fail later is stupid, considering the nonexistent cost of informing people of the violation! Seriously, two-minutes of dialogue or a few lines of notes, how easy is that? Even if the cheater gets caught later on, he/she would've already done damage. Fail medical school? She already took the spot of a qualified applicant! Failed a job? Took the spot of an applicant and wasted the employer's money! Clearly the cost of letting it go is greater than the cost of informing, and informing usually costs nothing.</p>

<p>AND... when you're sitting next to and listening to the cheaters it can be hard to not accidentally overhear.</p>

<p><strong>I'm NOT saying the OP did this. I'm just talking in general now.</strong></p>