What UC's Can I Get Into?

<p>Thinking Mostly UC Berkeley or UCLA, maybe UCSD.</p>

<p>Father Alumni of Berkely.</p>

<p>3.9 GPA on a 4.0 Scale.
All A's</p>

<p>Course Load: Core Classes AP
Biology 2 Dual/AP
Calculus AB and BC Dual/AP
Latin 3 AP
English 4 AP/Dual</p>

<p>Rank: 25/210, Very competitive selective school in Texas, Rated #1 School in Texas, School Specializes in Medical Career Prep</p>

<p>SAT: 1410</p>

<p>National Honor Society
Mu Alpha Theta
President of Health Occupation Students of America/ Numerous Awards
Red Cross Club Volunteer
Latin Club: Numerous Awards
Stu Co Treasurer
Dance Revolution
Drama Club</p>

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<p>You need to take three SAT II's, writing, mat ic or iic, and a third subject. Legacy's don't matter because UC's are public schools. If you're a senior this year, the deadline already passed, it was Nov. 30. It's harder to get into UC's form out of state because of the budget crisis and the more californians applying every year.</p>

<p>ohhh... snap!</p>

<p>I wouldn't recommend applying to any of the UC's if your out of state. Out of state tuition is not worth it. I would recommend to take your money elsewhere like at Carnegie Mellon, USC, NYU, Northwestern, John Hopkins, etc.</p>

<p>^ Its worth it for lots of out of state people.</p>

<p>I know peeps who turned down Columbia and Cornell engineering to go to UCSD Engineering. They wanted to come to California that bad. Until you traveled and lived elsewhere, its hard to understand why they want to come here so bad.</p>

<p>I don't think u have much of a shot at Cal or UCLA unless u can raise ur SAT and SAT II scores. I would definitely give UCSD a shot though. UCSD has the best campus out of all the UC's in my opinion, and its right next to the beach.</p>

<p>Your SAT score is definitely competitve for Berkeley and UCLA. It's above the average for crying out loud. California_Pride is being too pessimistic. If you didn't get into BOTH Berkeley and UCLA I will eat my own face.</p>

<p>Are u kidding? The average SAT score for Berkeley and UCLA, you have to add 40-50 points because it uses a one sitting policy. How many times have u read that by now? Out of staters are probably accepted at the same SAT score Asian Americans are accepted at. </p>

<p>Fine, I want to see you eat your own face. Berkeley rejected over 600 people with 1540+ SAT Scores last year.</p>

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<p>Where did you get that from? Not that I'm saying you're wrong, but just want to know where you read that. Just seems a bit unrealistic. Even though you're out of state, you have a decent shot at Cal if you have at least 650+ on all SAT II's. Hopefully you wrote a great essay, because you're gonna need it.</p>

<p>Remember that Berkeley uses best one sitting SAT score. That means you have to add 40-50 points to make it the same as private schools Best Verbal + Best Math score. </p>

<p><a href="http://www.latimes.com/news/local/la-me-ucadmit4oct04-1,1,3072102.story?coll=la-home-todays-times%5B/url%5D"&gt;http://www.latimes.com/news/local/la-me-ucadmit4oct04-1,1,3072102.story?coll=la-home-todays-times&lt;/a> </p>

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UC Berkeley Admissions Scrutinized
Study finds hundreds of highly qualified applicants were rejected in favor of freshmen who were 'marginally academically qualified.'
By Rebecca Trounson, Tony Perry and Stuart Silverstein
Times Staff Writers </p>

<p>October 4, 2003 </p>

<p>UC Berkeley, the University of California's oldest and most prestigious campus, admitted hundreds of freshmen in 2002 who were "marginally academically qualified" at the expense of many more highly qualified applicants, according to a confidential report obtained by The Times. </p>

<p>The preliminary analysis of UC Berkeley admissions, prepared for the UC Board of Regents, showed that nearly 400 students were admitted to the campus in 2002 with scores of 600 to 1000 on the SAT entrance exam, far below the 1337 average SAT score for last year's admitted class. Sixteen hundred on the test is considered a perfect score. </p>

<p>The report also shows that more than 600 applicants with scores on the SAT of 1500 or above were not admitted, along with nearly 2,600 others with scores from 1400 to 1500. Berkeley officials say many of the rejected students with high SATs had relatively low grade-point averages. </p>

<p>Overall, the document finds, the admissions process at UC Berkeley "might not be compatible with [the school's] goal of maintaining academic excellence." </p>

<p>The report was prepared at the request of regents Chairman John J. Moores. It is based on university data, but contains extensive analysis that primarily was written by Moores. The report does not attempt to explain the reasons for UC Berkeley's admissions patterns. It does not break down admissions by race, ethnicity or socioeconomic status, nor does it measure changes over time. </p>

<p>But it urges a more comprehensive study of admissions ?including some of these factors ?at Berkeley and the university's seven other undergraduate campuses. </p>

<p>. . . . </p>

<p>UC Berkeley officials and faculty members acknowledged that the statistics in the report are generally accurate, but cautioned that in some instances the data were misinterpreted or misunderstood. They strongly defended their admissions practices, saying that academics are the leading criterion in all decisions, apart from a small number of exceptions for those with "exceptional personal talent" ?often athletes. </p>

<p>The campus is "in full compliance with the regents' stated policy on admissions," said David Stern, a UC Berkeley education professor who heads its admissions committee. </p>

<p>. . . . </p>

<p>Richard Black, UC Berkeley's assistant vice chancellor for admission and enrollment, said the students with the 600 to 1000 SAT scores were accepted largely because they "made the most of the opportunities that were available to them." </p>

<p>He explained that a "substantial portion" of the accepted students with low SAT scores were underrepresented minority students from California's lowest-performing high schools. </p>

<p>"We're in the unfortunate position of not being able to admit some truly outstanding students, and that is difficult for us," Black said. </p>

<p>UC Berkeley officials said the largest group of rejected applicants with 1400-plus SAT scores were denied admission largely because of their lower grade-point averages. This group, university officials said, also took fewer semesters of honors and Advanced Placement courses, which allow students to gain college credit in high school if they pass certain exams. </p>

<p>Yet statistics provided by UC Berkeley officials on Friday showed that these rejected students actually had, on average, higher grade-point averages and more semesters of honors and AP courses than the students with SATs in the 600 to 1000 range who were accepted. </p>

<p>Students, parents and high school counselors often complain that the process of applying to the UC system, particularly Berkeley, is opaque, complex and confusing ?and the resulting decisions seemingly arbitrary. </p>

<p>. . . . </p>

<p>Moores, who said he requested the analysis after hearing complaints about the university's new admissions policy from parents, described himself as "shocked" by Berkeley's admissions data. </p>

<p>"You really can't tell exactly why some people are getting in and others are not getting in," he said. "I just don't see any objective standards" </p>

<p>The report also surprised several higher education researchers around the country. One said he was "flabbergasted" that UC Berkeley would admit significant numbers of students scoring below 1000, particularly those in the 600 to 800 range. </p>

<p>"I'm not a big supporter of SAT scores at all," said William G. Tierney, director of USC's Center for Higher Education Policy Analysis. "But if you sign your name, you get a 400." </p>

<p>Patrick M. Callan, president of the nonprofit National Center for Public Policy and Higher Education in San Jose, said the number of students with SATs below 1000 who were admitted "certainly raises a question about what the actual selection criteria are used in the university." </p>

<p>"You would expect a handful of those, where there was some special consideration ?maybe the kid was genius who doesn't test well, a musician, a poet, a football player, something.... But it's the magnitude that surprises me," Callan added, referring to the number of students admitted who had SAT scores below 1000. </p>

<p>. . . . </p>

<p>"Either the University of California at Berkeley really believes that students who are lower academic achievers based on SATs are better students than those who are higher achievers on those tests, or there is some other reason here. You know which I think," he said, adding that "this is a damning report." </p>

<p>. . . . </p>

<p>The report also focused on high school grade-point averages, which the authors said was significantly correlated with SAT scores. </p>

<p>. . . . </p>

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<p>Copyright 2003 Los Angeles Times

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<p>Not everyone takes the SAT more than once. The people who do are probably the students at the borderline. I doubt many students at the top Ivies, etc are taking the SAT more than once. And Cal routinely accepts many sub 1200 students. rejecting 1500s is just yield protection at its finest</p>

<p>"Berkeley officials say many of the rejected students with high SATs had relatively low grade-point averages."</p>

<p>That says it all. When somebody with a 2.0 GPA but a 1600 SAT score applies, I'd reject that kid too. Also, you have to understand that Berkeley probably rejects 1500+ students because the admissions committe is afraid the students are going to enroll at better colleges like Stanford, Harvard, or MIT and were just using Berkeley as a safety. It's just like what nyusternman said.</p>

<p>^ umm no man. Read the next paragraph my illiterate friend. </p>

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UC Berkeley officials said the largest group of rejected applicants with 1400-plus SAT scores were denied admission largely because of their lower grade-point averages. This group, university officials said, also took fewer semesters of honors and Advanced Placement courses, which allow students to gain college credit in high school if they pass certain exams. </p>

<p>Yet statistics provided by UC Berkeley officials on Friday showed that these rejected students actually had, on average, higher grade-point averages and more semesters of honors and AP courses than the students with SATs in the 600 to 1000 range who were accepted.

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<p>score:</p>

<p>12 to 2 in favor of Berkeley </p>

<p>(You got one point for being a Bay Area fan)</p>

<p>crzybacardi07:</p>

<p>Since when was Dance Dance Revolution an extracurricular?</p>

<p>UCB: Slight Reach (out of state)
UCLA: Slight Reach (out of state)
UCSD: Match (out of state)</p>

<p>UC admissions are too unpredictable.</p>

<p>i think u should sterngthen those EC's a little bit and get good SAT II scores then ull have a good chance with UCLA and UCB... but remember.. u can never be too sure about getting in</p>

<p>I think its only worth to pay out of state tuition if u go to ucla ,CAL ,and ucsd. Try applying to other uni like caltech and usc in case.</p>

<p>hey mel wazz up sowwie i have no answer for ya i don't feel like reading all these other commets i read wht u wrote and u've not been a Stu Co Treasurer.</p>

<p>haha since when is DR an extracurricular, well at our special hs (i go to the same one as crzybacardi) it is one, we have nothing else to do</p>