<p>I realize that I have posted this two times before, but I must ask one final time as it is a crucial question.</p>
<p>I’m applying to the management and technology program ED. My second choice school [if denied from M&T] is currently Engineering. I want to know if my chances of getting into Penn would substatially drop if i were to change my second choice school to Wharton.</p>
<p>Secondly, what would you do if pressed in a situation like this?</p>
<p>and please no crude humor this time, JCoveney</p>
<p>i think it would drop but not substantially since wharton is harder to get into than engineering. i would do what felt right if i really changed my mind and did not like engineering anymore i would change to wharton. it would be the same people looking at the app and i think they would judge me on the person i am not the school i am applying too</p>
<p>Alright. Yeah, that sounds like what im gonna do. As you might have noticed, I wanted to do the transfer thing, but if my heart is not completely into Engineering the first year, i will end up with bad grades and a low transfer chance. Thanks for your advice.</p>
<p>no problem :) just switch to wharton... would really want to go to a school that would accept you if you applied for engineering and not for wharton? they shouldnt judge based on that</p>
<p>hate to break it ya - but they probably do. barring ur acceptance into m&t, ur admission chances into wharton or seas are totally different.</p>
<p>so there is no point in damaging my chances by going to wharton directly. But its smarter, risk wise, to apply to SEAS and transfer out?</p>
<p>its not about damaging chances now, its about where you want to go and what you want to do. make up ur mind, quick!</p>
<p>i <em>want</em> to go to Wharton. But, I dont have quite as high stats as what is generally associated with wharton. I have roughly a 2150 SAT (1470) and im top 6%. I have a lot of APs and so so ECs. Based on this, do you really think i have a chance at Wharton? That's why im applying to SEAS, so i can transfer out sophomore year.</p>
<p>ur sats are above the Wharton average... CCers just have higher stats in general... don't be scared...</p>
<p>I have absolutely NO leadership positions, whatsoever. I also have limited participation in ECs, although I do have one varsity sport [11, 12]. Do you sincerely think i should take a chance?</p>
<p>My gut instinct tells me i have a good chance with SEAS, since i do have a solid engineering background. I could place out a lot of classes freshman year and really expedite the process.</p>
<p>what do u have to lose? have good essays. and maybe get a job, thats a good EC to have</p>
<p>Well lemme ask you this.</p>
<p>What're my ED chances at CAS:
Top 3%, 2330, SAT IIs in low 700s, 5-6 leadership ECs, Caucasian from NY, personal essay written about anthropology summer course taken and meeting kids from other countries, competitive Catholic HS, sent 2 supplemental photos of artwork</p>
<p>depends... really do you just want Penn badly or Wharton? I mean quite a few kids think they can just go to the college get good grades and then transfer into Wharton, but let's be realistic... freshmen year in college... it's a good time and not when most kids concentrate... i mean if you're really set on it... give it a shot...</p>
<p>heres my advice. if you dont LOVE engineering, dont apply to engineering. thats the one downfall of an engineering school versus say a business school or CAS - you can ONLY do engineering if you get stuck there. that said, if you do enjoy engineering a lot and are applying to M&T to supplement your appreciation for engineering with some knowledge in business, then the engineering school sounds like a fine choice. </p>
<p>dont make the decision based on statistics and percentages, thats my advice. do what you feel is right. </p>
<p>and honestly, i dont think your chances at getting into engineering will be that much different than wharton. this is the ED round, so both have higher acceptance percentages, and most likely are within 5-10% of each other.</p>
<p>Magnet, ask yourself why do you want to go to Wharton>SEAS? You admit that you have a strong engineering and math background, no leadership opportunities and very little business extracurriculars. For starters, how do you know that business, and for that matter Wharton, is your "thing"?</p>
<p>Here's my guess: your afraid of working as a fulltime engineer, and you want wharton's postgraduate oppportunities. You gotta remember that a whole lot of Penn engineers end up in i-banking and consulting jobs. check out this website: <a href="http://www.vpul.upenn.edu/careerservices/seas/seas_surveys.html%5B/url%5D">http://www.vpul.upenn.edu/careerservices/seas/seas_surveys.html</a>. Notice how out of the top 5 employers, 4 are business-related (Goldman, Mckinsey, accenture, deloitte). those employers value the quantitiative thinking and problem solving skills of penn engineering students.</p>
<p>here's my advice: if you're good at engineering, stick with it. you definately won't be "screwed" by going with Penn engineering - in fact, you probably are expanding your options to include both business AND engineering careers. study what you enjoy. don't go to wharton just for its name and career opportunities, especially if you really wanted to do engineering all along. also, remember that you can still take wharton classes as elective classes even if your an engineering student.</p>
<p>don't try to "backdoor" into wharton with an engineering curriculum, chances are you probably won't make it. think of it this way: you admit that your chances of getting into wharton are slim. your chances for transferring out of Penn engineering are only slimmer.</p>