<p>@bomerr</p>
<p>but those transfer students getting mostly As at CCs might not be the kinds of people who, no offense, are afraid to take more challenging classes because they are not “Easy As.”</p>
<p>I wonder if freshman have similar attrition rates in economics programs at UCLA and Berkeley.</p>
<p>@Cayton and Bomerr it remains to be seen if taking blow off professors or cherry picking for the easiest professors will help or hurt you upon transfer. We have not experienced work at the University level yet to judge it.</p>
<p>I feel like taking the easiest professors may not benefit me in the long run but that’s the choice I made.</p>
<p>@stanx89</p>
<p>A fair enough point.</p>
<p>@ Cayton. Check out the UCLA Business-Econ and UCB Econ pages. It’s kinda funny. </p>
<p>@ Cal. Freshman students need to maintain a 3.0 Major GPA to be admitted. Transfers need to maintain a 2.7 major GPA.</p>
<p>@ UCLA. Freshman students need to maintain a 3.3 gpa. Transfers need to maintain a 3.0 to be admitted. </p>
<p>Basically both schools realize transfers kinda suck and cut us some slack. With that said they still put in GPA limits to make sure the completely poor student doesn’t enter the program. Most importantly these all people who are averaging 3.93 CC GPA. </p>
<p>@ Stan. The only reason I say get easy A’s is because an easy teacher is usually universally easy. But one persons good/hard teacher is another persons crazy/hard teacher.</p>
<p>@bomerr</p>
<p>Well, that hurts.</p>
<p>@stanx89 - Yeah you stated just people going to college not people who matriculate. And does this include CC’s or just Universities???</p>
<p>At my CCC all my classes are Free (BOG waiver) and all I pay a semester is $22 In fees and $200 in books that’s it, plus they give me about $2900 in PELL Grants, and $400 more in two other grants so idk how that is too expensive and how anyone could drop out of that for financial reasons??</p>
<p>@Matt4200 it’s at the University level. A CC is world’s cheaper than a UNI. I also get all those things that you get but my books are much more expensive. Most people at a CC live at home with their parents or have jobs and take classes part time. It costs much more to attend a Uni than a CC. A CC is not the ultimate destination for most students at least it should not be. I can tell you this for someone like me who pays all their own bills I can’t live off of the Pell grant that won’t even pay half of my bills. Thank god that I’m a vet and allowed to use the GI bill or else I would not be in college due to financial reasons.</p>
<p>All I’m trying to relay to you is that class status, is one of the biggest determinants in college success. The majority of students who drop out of school, drop out because of financial reasons.</p>
<p>@Bomerr I agree. I just hope that RMP is available and utilized at the UNI level. haha</p>
<p>If money was not the issue we would not have an educational gap between the rich and poor.</p>
<p>@stanx89</p>
<p>It’s not really a waste if the student HAS to drop out because of financial reasons, that’s the main reason why they’re getting FA, correct?</p>
<p>@Smurray09 True, It’s not a waste but the financial aid provides does not fully help the student, if they had to drop out due to financial trouble.</p>
<p>@stanx89 - It’s called Financial Aid not financial support lol it’s supposed to aid people not support them fully like first aid and hospitals.</p>
<p>At CC’s financial aid does a world or help trust me but you also need a part time Job and maybe a room mate to make it through without loans.</p>
<p>The class struggle you talk about is mainly at schools like Yale and Harvard along with Stanford, not as much at the UC’s and public UNIV’s.</p>
<p>Yeah the richer are the ones who tend to be more successful but more and more people are going to college to be the first ones in their family to be successful and start an upward trend if you will of doing so, at least I am.</p>
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<p>But remember that the family income level to receive financial aid can be $100,000 or more at UCs, and over $200,000 at the some expensive private schools with good financial aid. However, California publics do tend to have relatively high percentages of students on Pell grants (probably a better measure of students from low income families than students on financial aid) compared to many others. (If you are from a low income family, you are lucky to be in California – in some other states like Pennsylvania, in-state financial aid is quite poor.)</p>
<p>As far as CC vs. UC grading goes, when UC StatFinder was up, it allowed generating reports of average grades at UC for transfer students from CCs with certain ranges of prior college GPAs. For CC transfers with prior college GPAs in the 3.8-4.0 range, their UC GPAs were typically in the 3.4-3.7 range, depending on campus or major. However, the difference got smaller at lower GPA ranges, and generally disappeared at 3.0 and lower GPAs (obviously at the less selective UCs).</p>
<p>However, an individual transfer student’s experience may be confounded by the fact that prior to transfer, s/he was taking all lower division courses at the CC, while after transfer, s/he was taking mostly upper division courses at the UC.</p>
<p>Regarding CSU vs. UC, it is generally the case that CSUs tend to have a more pre-professional emphasis, while UCs tend to have a more liberal arts (+ engineering) emphasis in terms of what majors are the most popular. However, a typical CSU is large enough that it will have more liberal arts majors than many liberal arts colleges. For a specific major, you will want to compare each campus’ offerings in that major, rather than rely on generalizations based on whether it is a CSU or UC.</p>
<p>What kind of financial aid can you receive as an UG with a family income of 100k or 200k??? And I don’t mean scholarships those are separate from need-based aid in my opinion.</p>
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<p>You can check these net price calculators for need-based financial aid estimates:</p>
<p>[Financial</a> Aid Estimator - UC Berkeley Financial Aid and Scholarships Office](<a href=“Financial Aid Estimator - UC Berkeley Financial Aid and Scholarships Office”>http://calculator.berkeley.edu/)
<a href=“https://college.harvard.edu/financial-aid/net-price-calculator[/url]”>https://college.harvard.edu/financial-aid/net-price-calculator</a></p>
<p>Hmm.</p>
<p>I think it’s really only a California thing that UC schools are better than CSU’s. I know someone from Harvard who has only heard of UC Berkeley and UCLA. None of the others.</p>
<p>While I am trying to get into UCLA myself for graduate school, Cal Poly SLO and Cal Poly Pomona graduates do pretty well here in California in terms of getting good jobs. They’re part of the CSU system. The Cal Poly’s are STEM oriented and I’m in a STEM major, so I can’t really speak for anything outside of that. It’s a good school for engineering majors.</p>
<p>My parents make $100K something, but they could not afford to send me to a UC school because of outstanding debts. I’m entirely on loans at the moment. I’ll make the best of my education, but I don’t expect too many problems because I went to a CSU.</p>
<p>Good question OP. I’d imagine that the UC’s are obviously more research based and the CSU’s are more “practical.” It likely depends on what you want to do.</p>