<p>I'm going to apply to CALS but still not sure if i would want to go.</p>
<p>Why do they not want SAT subject tests though? Is it considered the worst college there? I've also heard it's really considered the "public college" there.</p>
<p>Thanks,
David</p>
<p>CALS "highly recommends" them, which means you should have taken them, but your application will still be reviewed if you haven't taken them. And although it is one of three state-funded colleges, I don't know how you could hear it's the worst. It's home to AEM, a top business program. It also holds a very strong biology program, the #1 atmospheric sci./meteorology undergrad program in the nation, and many unusual majors that most schools do not offer. Just because it is a contract college with NYS does not mean it is not competitive. Try getting into AEM/Bio/Atmos. Sci/Bioengineering... the list can go on and on. The thing that makes CALS appear "easy" to ppl is that passion is held to such a high regard when reviewing applications. Funny thing is, that's what gets most people rejected</p>
<p>CALS is a contract college. ILR, Human Ecology and the School of Veterinary Medicine (one of the best in the nation) are also NYS contract colleges. These schools receive funding from New York State to further research efforts and other goals. In return, NYS residents receive discounted tuition. Like grantorture said....CALS is home to many highly regarded (nationally) undergraduate majors. </p>
<p>CALS recommends the SAT subject tests to strengthen your application. Plenty of people have been accepted without them...but if you do well and have weaknesses in other aspects of your app...then it certainly helps. </p>
<p>I recommend you do more research on CALS before you apply.</p>
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CALS "highly recommends" them, which means you should have taken them, but your application will still be reviewed if you haven't taken them. And although it is one of three state-funded colleges, I don't know how you could hear it's the worst. It's home to AEM, a top business program. It also holds a very strong biology program, the #1 atmospheric sci./meteorology undergrad program in the nation, and many unusual majors that most schools do not offer. Just because it is a contract college with NYS does not mean it is not competitive. Try getting into AEM/Bio/Atmos. Sci/Bioengineering... the list can go on and on. The thing that makes CALS appear "easy" to ppl is that passion is held to such a high regard when reviewing applications. Funny thing is, that's what gets most people rejected
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well this is what i got from the site </p>
<p>"Do I need to take the SAT Subject Tests?
The College of Agriculture and Life Sciences does not require SAT Subject Tests. We do recommend, however, that if you plan to submit these exams in support of your application, that you take an SAT Subject Test in a science and in Mathematics (any level).</p>
<p>Students who do not submit scores are not penalized in the admissions process."</p>
<p>If i did go i would want to go pre-med, but that doesn't necessarily mean i'd have to major in Biology. Do you think i'd have a higher chance of getting in if i chose a different major and then just did the requirements for med school?
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CALS is a contract college. ILR, Human Ecology and the School of Veterinary Medicine (one of the best in the nation) are also NYS contract colleges. These schools receive funding from New York State to further research efforts and other goals. In return, NYS residents receive discounted tuition. Like grantorture said....CALS is home to many highly regarded (nationally) undergraduate majors.</p>
<p>CALS recommends the SAT subject tests to strengthen your application. Plenty of people have been accepted without them...but if you do well and have weaknesses in other aspects of your app...then it certainly helps.</p>
<p>I recommend you do more research on CALS before you apply.
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<p>Yea i do need to read more about it, i was trying to find out what i could from the site but it didn't give me much new info. It definitely seems good, i've just heard on here before it was thought of as the "public college" there. I'm sure i'd be lucky if i got in, still not sure if i would want to go though.</p>
<p>just look at the Wikipedia site for Cornell, it'll go into the contract college thing for you</p>
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CALS "highly recommends" them, which means you should have taken them, but your application will still be reviewed if you haven't taken them. And although it is one of three state-funded colleges, I don't know how you could hear it's the worst. It's home to AEM, a top business program. It also holds a very strong biology program, the #1 atmospheric sci./meteorology undergrad program in the nation, and many unusual majors that most schools do not offer. Just because it is a contract college with NYS does not mean it is not competitive. Try getting into AEM/Bio/Atmos. Sci/Bioengineering... the list can go on and on. The thing that makes CALS appear "easy" to ppl is that passion is held to such a high regard when reviewing applications. Funny thing is, that's what gets most people rejected.
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<p>Sorry, I don't mean to take over the topic, but when you say "that's what gets most people rejected", you mean that CALS accepts based on the extreme passion and interest you show in your application for the major your looking for, right? So those who just apply for kicks/write standard essays and don't show interest are the ones that are turned down.</p>
<p>Water- I mean that I know of several rejections where the applicant's SAT is over 2100 and they are top 10 in their class. But I noticed that none of them were very certain of their career path, and not very passionate about the major they chose in their application. In fact, a few even said, "I just applied to this major because it sounded neat." CALS in NOT the school where you would venture to do something like that. Do you understand what I am saying? People think great grades and test scores will get them into the "ag school", but they could not be more mistaken. Of course those are a necessary foundation, but once that is acheived, it is the potential in the field of study indicated on the application that yields the admits and rejects.</p>
<p>"i've just heard on here before it was thought of as the "public college" there."</p>
<p>this is still confusing me a little. you won't find people cracking jokes about CALS, or looking down on CALS students...it's not like you say you're in CALS and people say "oh." so it has no reputation for being easy or low-quality or anything that you might be associating with a public college. what makes it "public" is how, as we discussed before, tuition is less for NYS residents, because the state funds stuff at CALS.</p>
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you won't find people cracking jokes about CALS
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<p>Well, we might, but it is all in good fun. It's pretty funny to ask a neurobio or AEM major, "Is that the Ag School I smell?" I mean, the first year Animal Science majors do need to clean out the barns every Saturday morning...</p>
<p>And then there is the song... Old Man Ezra had a farm... With an Aggie here and an Aggie there, here an Aggie, there an Aggie, everywhere an Aggie.</p>
<p>^oh, I wasn't aware. although I should assume that students can come up with a joke for any and every situation.
at least in my experience I haven't gotten a hard time yet.</p>
<p>Nah. You wont get a hard time. Every college has their own jokes.</p>
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Well, we might, but it is all in good fun. It's pretty funny to ask a neurobio or AEM major, "Is that the Ag School I smell?" I mean, the first year Animal Science majors do need to clean out the barns every Saturday morning...</p>
<p>And then there is the song... Old Man Ezra had a farm... With an Aggie here and an Aggie there, here an Aggie, there an Aggie, everywhere an Aggie.
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<p>Ha..well at least there's nothing to make fun of Communication students for. Right?...<em>considers pre-med more and more O_o...</em> Nah, I've got tons of passion for my field and I know I can demonstrate that to admissions. Besides, I'll never know until I get there, right? Research and intro classes are one thing, but it takes the real deal with a great department Cornell can offer to know what I'm dealing with and looking for in a career. (In addition, I can still take science classes I like just in case I do sway for genetics!)</p>
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Water- I mean that I know of several rejections where the applicant's SAT is over 2100 and they are top 10 in their class. But I noticed that none of them were very certain of their career path, and not very passionate about the major they chose in their application. In fact, a few even said, "I just applied to this major because it sounded neat." CALS in NOT the school where you would venture to do something like that. Do you understand what I am saying? People think great grades and test scores will get them into the "ag school", but they could not be more mistaken. Of course those are a necessary foundation, but once that is acheived, it is the potential in the field of study indicated on the application that yields the admits and rejects.
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<p>That's what I thought you meant :P. I have tons of passion/interest, par less on the HS scores/stats though. I know they'll take that into consideration, but I'm hoping that great grades, maybe not overwhelming ones but great ones, will be enough to show them I'm ready to tackle the challenge a school like Cornell presents.</p>
<p>Not to mention CALS' open house is this weekend. I'm pumped!</p>