<p>I waited 4 months to get a root canal, then paid about $1500. Lovely.</p>
<p>When I lived in England, the longest I waited was about a week to get a CAT scan done. And it was free to me. Here, I waited 5 days but I had to pay about $80. I’d rather wait the 2 days.</p>
<p>Okay, my dad doesn’t have healthcare at all, my mom is a nurse so everyone in my family has full health coverage but my dad had a toothache and had to go to the dentist and he had to pay the full $300 out of pocket, so I KNOW what it’s like to no have healthcare and I still thinks it’s fine the way it is, plain and simple life isn’t always fair if you have a job you have healthcare, my dad chooses not pay for it and doesn’t complain about it.</p>
<p>The theory itself is perfect, but when actually put to use it’s imperfect. Communism isn’t such a bad idea either, but history and today show that it just doesn’t work that well. It just goes to show that nothing can ever be perfect.</p>
<p>I know so many people in Canda and yes, they are ‘happy’ with their healthcare system. Great benefits. </p>
<p>I even recently saw this facebook group.</p>
<p>" Did i hear you dissing Canda?..oh, i’m sorry, i couldn’t hear you over all our healthcare benefits. "</p>
<p>Even though they have great benefits, there are people that DO wait for procedures such as MRI’s and Colorectals and vasculars. It has never been debunked becuase it wasn’t a myth. </p>
<p>My USH teacher told me about some people that he knew that died becuase he hadn’t been able to get care in time for his physical trauma.</p>
<p>And what procedures do you wait for in America? Surgery? My mom works at a hospital and i’ve interned at several hospitals. there has never been lines for surgery ever. Waiting lists are unheard of. The only thing that might delay a surgery here is a shortage of organs if it’s an organ transplant. The only basis for holding up surgery.</p>
<p>^^^Well the difference is, your dad can afford to pay out of his pocket.</p>
<p>Some people earn barely $300 a month.</p>
<p>No actually he can’t and doesn’t complain he was just forced to pay the $300 or pull the tooth out with plyers, which he thought about.</p>
<p>Okay. But I’m actually talking about people who can barely put food on the table. </p>
<p>A toothache could be dealt crudely with a pair of pliers I guess, but what about medical situations far more severe that will cost more than $300 dollars?</p>
<p>Well teacher and social workers don’t have a hard time putting food on the table, most people who can’t put food on the table came from from a bad situation but just becuase you grew up in the ghetto doesn’t mean you have to stay there, it is their choice to not go to college and better themselves and every state has cheap state school and you can take out students loans.</p>
<p>That is too idealistic.</p>
<p>If it was that easy and one sided, then we’d probably all frolic in fields with butterflies and rainbows without toothaches and untreated diseases.</p>
<p>^…and have usernames like fairy_dreams lol ;)</p>
<p>hahaha. Must I suffer constant abuse from a small lapse of sanity, randomazn? :[</p>
<p>The world will never be perfect and it’s not fair people need to stop complaining and make the best of what they have.</p>
<p>^ and not try to better it?</p>
<p>Well actually even if you worked at minimum wage for 4 hours a day, 5 days a week you would still make over $500 a month. And by the way, only 3% of the employed population works at minimum wage (mostly teenagers).</p>
<p>So to say some employed people barely earn $300 a month in the U.S. is a fallacy.</p>
<p>anyways
The problem with socialism is that it doesn’t provide incentives for innovation and it is a system of mediocrity that doesn’t allow talented, motivated, and hardworking to reach their full potential.</p>
<p>^^^And that’s what the fortunate say. </p>
<p>Can’t say I’m not one of them, but that’s no reason to disregard everything.</p>
<p>Well, seeing as not all of our population is employed, I’m guessing that it’s not only teenagers who are struggling with money.</p>
<p>lol, no, I was merely in awe of your brilliant name, fairy. Oh, and your “hahaha” and " :{ " is making my head confused lol</p>
<p>Soccer, that’s exactly it. People are trying to make the best of what they have (which is pretty much nothing for some), but sometimes not even that is enough. The first socialist thinkers were trying to think up some systems to fix that, and they were likely good people. Like fairy<em>dreams. But unfortunately, they, like fairy</em>dreams, experienced a small lapse of sanity in the process.</p>
<p>That’s why they didn’t realize socialism was impossible until it proved itself so in a bad way. Which…sucks. Like, as you said, a lot of the things in this world.</p>
<p>^^^About the working minimum wage thing.</p>
<p>I think the problem is working at minimum wage and paying for the water bills, electricity bills, gas bills and phone bills. After that, while working on minimum wage, i’ll be shocked if one even has enough money to get a bus pass.</p>
<p>" The problem with socialism is that it doesn’t provide incentives for innovation and it is a system of mediocrity that doesn’t allow talented, motivated, and hardworking to reach their full potential. "</p>
<p>Exactly. Socialism will limit everything and anything.</p>
<p>For me, it’s a moral issue.</p>
<p>Our society is obsessed with “equality”—a horrendously ambiguous term. I believe wholeheartedly in equality under the law and equality of opportunity, but not in forced equality of property. Socialism uses the coercive power of government to force equality on people. I value nonviolence, including applied to government, more than equal distribution of wealth.</p>
<p>A society where everyone is forced into being “equal” seems utterly appalling. Just protect my natural opportunity to succeed. That’s all I want. I don’t for a moment believe that just because I exist, I deserve the labor—and thus the lives—of others. I deplore the idea that the collective is more important than the individual. After all, doesn’t the collective derive its very importance from its composition of individuals? How can the state be entitled to my labors?</p>
<p>While democracy is undoubtedly safer than dictatorship, it’s not the be all and end all of a just society. There’s nothing that makes the majority inherently right. Mere numbers don’t make a course of action moral or an opinion factually correct. The Nazi Party ascended as a popular movement. Socialism increases the stakes of democracy, and gives the minority little recourse except rebellion against the entire system.</p>
<p>I don’t doubt that it’d be possible to create a society that forced equality onto people, but I’d hate to see the day.</p>
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<p>Not everyone requires monetary incentive for innovation. Many advances in computer software and servers are a result of open source, meaning that they are developed and maintained by an open community. The Apache HTTP Server, responsible for providing you with most of the content on the internet, is open source and thus the result of countless anonymous developers who ask for no compensation from you. </p>
<p>There was no tangible personal incentive for them to build it, and yet the internet wouldn’t have progressed without it.</p>
<p>I understand what your saying.</p>
<p>But most things being developed DO require compensation. There might be a few people here and there that won’t accept or wish to donate their amount/share of compensation to something/someone but for the most part, the expansion in the technological/medical world are results of people wanting to gain/profit. It’s what drives our society.</p>