<p>michaelfaud</p>
<p>did you try the lost/forgotten pin/id button? maybe that would reset things or send you new info that would work??</p>
<p>Yeah, I tried that last night and it worked! I got waitlisted.
Here are the stats:
GPA: 3.8
SAT: M 790 C 730 W 720 (superscore) 2240
SATII: MathII 760 Physics 780 US History 700
Two sport varsity athlete soccer and track.
Two years on Mock Trial.
Science research experience.
Oh well.</p>
<p>skateboarder-- judging from some of the other excellent stats on here (aka michaelfuad and that person who got into CMU! wow), the waitlist doesn't mean we're not qualified... I guess they just wanted a really well-rounded student body, not individuals who are well rounded, but a class with people with a wide variety of different stats and activities. I got deferred ED from Brown and waiting to hear from Duke and others, so we'll see what happens!</p>
<p>wow bucknell is ridiculous. Its really not that great of a school and they are turning down so many amazing applicants</p>
<p>jusayswhat,</p>
<p>Yeah I agree with you. I talked to a couple of friends from my old school who applied, and one of them got waitlisted with a 4.1 UW, 2310, and varsity letters.</p>
<p>I got deferred from Brown ED also, and am waiting on Duke.</p>
<p>I personally think this is a complete and utter joke. Clearly schools like Bucknell who faced 10+ percent declines in applications this year should be accepting more students to combat a likely decrease in yield and still match their target enrollment. Instead, Bucknell is waitlisting an insane number of students (which they have never done) to simply keep their acceptance rate hovering at or below the 30% mark. They market their sub-30% acceptance rate on their website, etc. as placing them "among the most selective universities in the world," so clearly they don't want to lose the ability to make that claim. By waitlisting instead of accepting more students, they also dodge the risk of dropping in rankings conducted by private companies such as US News and The Princeton Review. Because waitlisted applicants aren't counted in the acceptance rate, even after some are pulled in May, this reassures future prospective students and even alumni that the school is continuing to do well.</p>
<p>I completely disagree with these priorities, because in the end I believe that Bucknell will end up with a less-qualified class than they could have had they increased acceptances rather than extending their waitlist. I'm seeing some incredible stats posted here from waitlisted students (2200 SAT's, 33 ACT's, 750 SAT II's, etc.) and know that all of you will receive many great offers long before May 5th. By the time that day rolls around, I'm sure that all of the applicants at the top of the waitlist will be committed to other top universities and that for most the small college in Lewisburg, PA will be remain as nothing more than a distant, resentful memory. It is clear that Bucknell will be pulling applicants off of their waitlist this year, but long behold, they will not have their pick. Next year, prospective applicants will be deterred from applying when they find out about this distasteful policy, and when the applicant pool shrinks even more Bucknell will really begin to feel the pressure like never before. In the long run, the small colleges who will escape these tough economic times with nothing more than a few scratches on their rankings (and an endowment to rebuild) will be those who suck it up, push their egos aside, and put survival before denial. Based on Bucknell's actions, I see this resulting in very bad things for them over the next few years.</p>
<p>PS, I got waitlisted, too. I swear, Bucknell and any other college besides top 10 LAC's and Ivy-caliber schools who play the waitlisting game on this scale will face big time trouble in the next few months and beyond. And with that being said, I wish them the worst.</p>
<p>Sat: 2270
Sat2: math 2 800
Varsity Captain</p>
<p>Waitlisted.</p>
<p>Waitlisted</p>
<p>SAT: 780 CR/690M/770 W
SAT 2: 760 USH, 720 World His, 690 Bio M
Three year varsity baseball, school newspaper, student council treasurer, NHS, all that stuff
Rank: 20something/650</p>
<p>I'm not resentful, but I can't help but agree with the people who are talking about this "Tuft's Syndrome" thing. Apparently Bucknell thought I looked at them as a safety, which definitely wasn't true. Oh well, still have to hear back from Brown, Dartmouth, Gtown and Duke(I dont know whether to take getting waitlisted at Bucknell as a good or a bad sign going into these decisions, haha)</p>
<p>hey guys, i'm so sorry to hear that a bunch of you got waitlisted, but, as a bucknell student, i know that a big part of the decision is based on interest. i know some of you mentioned the "optional" essay - not doing it is really not an option. the admissions people just really want to see that, even if this is a safety school for you, you're not just treating it as a throw-away safety. visiting campus, if possible, shows that you would actually consider going here should you get in. i know that i was just as upset about not getting into some schools that i considered safeties last year, but i never bothered to visit the schools. this is just a thought of mine, and i know its different from case to case. you also shouldn't get caught up in what the numbers are on college confidential. you guys represent a very small percentage of the kids that applied, so i'd wait before assuming that the number of waitlisted kids is more this year.</p>
<p>good luck to all of you who were waitlisted and congrats to those of you who were accepted!</p>
<p>RAY BUCKNELL!</p>
<p>I don't agree with the "Tuft's Syndrome" claims. This entire year, all I have been hearing is about how our graduation year is the largest there is. With the downturn of the economy, my folks limited me to 6 schools. I had 12 on my list. I eliminated 5, and paid the app fee for the 7th out of my own pocket. Meaning 5 fewer schools on my list, but the 7 are schools I’m really interested in. I would think that even though applications may be down at schools, it also means the applications they do have are from very interested students. That’s the way it is for me.</p>
<p>You would think places like Bucknell would also figure this out, and maybe have like acceptance rates from previous years. My mom has been obsessed with the college process (if you know what I mean!) and showed me an article on how some schools also used a larger early decision acceptance. I don’t know about Bucknell, but I confirmed this with a school I applied to in Ohio.</p>
<p>And do the math! Bucknell had 8,000 applications last year, and only offered admission to 2,400. That’s 5,600 who didn’t get in. How do you get “waitlisting an insane number of students” out of that? Or even the 100 posts on this thread? Even if they are down in applications this year, I’m guessing they don’t need to be playing the Tufts game. Sorry, just my opinion.</p>
<p>I got in, and will be going in the fall. I should have applied early, because Bucknell has been my number 1 for a while. Still waiting on a couple other schools, but I don’t care.</p>
<p>gpa: 3.9
sat: math 740 cr 690
varsity athlete baseball (not good enough to play DI)
choir and band
mun
lots of volunteer work</p>
<p>I spent a ton of time on my Bucknell essays. The admissions counselor there emphasized the importance of these.</p>
<p>GO Bison!</p>
<p>Congrats to those who got in! If you're going.. See you in the fall! :) </p>
<p>I know a lot of qualified people were wait-listed, but don't take it personally. It's a small school, and they accept a lot of kids through ED.</p>
<p>Thanks for your unbiased opinion 314pie, but a cursory view of this thread shows that many students around Bucknell's score ranges were accepted and many who were significantly above them were waitlisted. To me, the most reasonable explanation is that they are seeking a high yield to retain/improve their ranking. It sucks too, I really liked Bucknell.</p>
<p>Hey jumpjump,</p>
<p>I appreciate and completely understand your thoughts and argument. I’m just trying to say that a school that only admitted 2,400 students last year certainly has to waitlist and deny the remaining 5,600 applicants, some who would certainly have scores within or above the range. A handful of posts on CC doesn’t give a fair representation. The counselor during my group presentation gave a scenario of a student who was tops in the class and high SAT’s who never visited and didn’t do the optional essay, compared to a slightly less competitive student who visited campsu and did the optional essay. I think with Bucknell it is much more than high SAT’s and a decent gpa. I really took the time with my application to Bucknell, and for me I think it made the difference. I guess we can agree to disagree.</p>
<p>i was waitlisted too :(
the letter online said we'll know for sure by may 5th... how are we supposed to reply to other schools or even bucknell if it's past may 1st?!?</p>
<p>zipzap: BIngo!!! Unless all of you know (and I don't think you do) how many were accepted ED, you have no idea what's going on for RD.....because they saw the decrease in apps this year, they could have decided to take 50% of the class ED......in addition, I do agree with carmello in terms of "yield protection", but in addition, they probably tried to assess from essays and interest who was actually interested in attending...those with high stats and waitlisted obviously still have a chance to be accepted; just let them know it's your first choice and you would DEFINITELY attend if accepted, assuming you are full pay that is.....</p>
<p>This is probably what's going to happen at alot of the same caliber schools as Bucknell....wait and see...it's one of those years....</p>
<p>RTL: you send your deposit in to your second choice school with the risk of losing it if you get in off the waitlist....</p>
<p>314pie- you are supporting my point. If Bucknell prioritizes the perceived interest of a student over academic qualification, they are doing so out of concern for their yield. That is by definition "Tufts syndrome." But congrats on getting accepting, you should feel very fortunate. </p>
<p>Out of curiosity, does anyone have statistics on the waitlist. How many are put on and accepted from the waitlist?</p>
<p>RTL22</p>
<p>You're supposed to deposit at one school, and then hope to be pulled off the waitlist. Yep, you have to be willing to lose the deposit money from the one school.</p>
<p>JumpJump according to princeton review the best 368 colleges only 1% of people that were waitlisted get in. It might be different this year but with such a tiny number I'm just taking this as a rejection.</p>
<p>JUmpJUmp: I agree with 314pi...
Tufts Syndrome is where a college denies or waitlists highly qualified students on the grounds that the students are bound to be accepted by more prestigious schools and thus almost certainly would not enroll at say... Bucknell. The idea here... is that it is based solely upon the numbers (SAT’s and GPA), and not necessarily perceived interest. I contest that a highly qualified student who shows interest in Bucknell would be admitted regardless of their likelihood of enrolling, as long as they had shown meaningful and measurable interest in Bucknell (Even if that student… through say geo-demographics or other means is unlikely to enroll at Bucknell). This may seem as if it is a fine line, and it is. But there is a difference. (You can do the samre thing with... say a student who is on the fence for being admitted. If they don't show interest, why would you admit them? Regardless of scores or GPA.)</p>
<p>Waitlist Info:
About 600 students each year choose to remain on Bucknell’s waitlist. In the past 5 years, Bucknell has taken as few as 0, and as many as 95 students off the waitlist (It is usually 40 to 50).
See: <a href="http://www.bucknell.edu/Documents/Admissions//BucknellWaitListInformation2013.pdf%5B/url%5D">www.bucknell.edu/Documents/Admissions//BucknellWaitListInformation2013.pdf</a></p>