Where can a 30 on ACT get me?

<p>Hi! I'm a junior girl attending a public Georgia high school. Now I understand that there are many more factors such as GPA, extracurriculars, and course rigor that are crucial for college applications and admittances. However, I am curious as to which schools are more likely to accept me with a 30 on the ACT based on admittance statistics and what not...</p>

<p>Specifics:
ACT Composite- 30
ACT Math- 27
ACT Science- 27
ACT Reading- 31
ACT English- 33</p>

<p>My top schools:
Boston College
New York University
UC Berkeley
UC Los Angeles
University of Southern California
College of William and Mary
University of Michigan- Ann Arbor
University of Virginia
University of North Carolina- Chapel Hill</p>

<p>THANK YOU ALL SO MUCH! I URGE YOU ALL TO REPLY WITH ANY ADVICE OR THOUGHTS YOU MAY HAVE!!<3</p>

<p>UNC-CH: Reach
W&M: High match
UVA: High match
UMI: Reach
UCLA: Match/High match
Berkeley: High match (can you pay full-freight?)
USC: High match
NYU: Match/High match</p>

<p>Do you have a safety?</p>

<p>@catria Because i live in georgia, uga is probably my only safety thus far… i know i need to find more</p>

<p>Can you afford these schools? You are OOS for the pubic schools, right? Have you run the net price calculators?</p>

<p>These guesses are based only on your ACT score because I don’t know your GPA…
Boston College - Low reach or reach depending on GPA
New York University - Match depending on GPA
UC Berkeley - Reach
UC Los Angeles - Reach
University of Southern California - Low reach, they are usually looking for higher testing
College of William and Mary - Not sure
University of Michigan- Ann Arbor - Depends on GPA. If you have a 3.8+ UW then it’s a match. If not low reach.
University of Virginia - Reach because OOS.
University of North Carolina- Chapel Hill - Again, reach because OOS.</p>

<p>If you want other match/low match schools (because you have mostly hard schools here) I suggest you look into:
Boston University
George Washington University
UT Austin
U of Miami
U Wisconsin - Madison
UC Santa Barbara
U Washington - Seattle
Emory (Reach, but applying ED helps I’ve heard so you would have a good chance depending on GPA)</p>

<p>For oos at UMich LSA, you need to have 32+ and 3.85+ to be a high match. ACT 30 with GPA 3.85+ would be a low reach. Reach if GPA below 3.85.</p>

<p>Consider UA. Current engineer OOS majors with ACT 30 and at least 3.5 GPA have full tuition scholarship. Campus visit on a University Day would give you a great look. Look at what in-state GA schools (private and public) would have for what you want to study, and look at area states. Do a fair number of campus visits keeping in mind what your budget is for college. What is your parents’ input? Have you looked at what friends/relatives/older students’ experiences have been? You might be motivated to apply to many schools, but try to narrow your search so that the beginning of senior year you apply to an intense shorter list.</p>

<p>Campus visits can make you change your mind from what looks desirable/undesirable on paper.</p>

<p>@intparent and @SOSConcern I come from a relatively upper class family who is fully prepared to pay for a top college. If I am not admitted to these schools, then my family believes it would be best to save money and attend an instate college such as UGA. I have done my research and am very familiar with the tuitions and additional costs for all of these schools. Additionally, I have gone on at least six different college campus tours. I am also not interested in any other Georgia colleges besides UGA as a safety. I would very much appreciate thoughts/responses that pertain to my specific question about ACT scores and admissions. Thank you very much. </p>

<p>Since you have looked at ‘the top’ colleges (campus visits etc), do all the application processes and see what happens. </p>

<p>I still would encourage you to do a campus visit to UA - a University Day visit, Capstone Scholars Visit Day. Schedule a day with the dept you want to major in, and see what Honors at UA is all about. Call UA admissions to get details, and perhaps talk/email the UA recruiter that handles GA.</p>

<p>You do not say what you want to study - and maybe that will change. You may think a ‘top college’ (maybe defined by stringent admission requirements, or by the marketing, or the incoming student stats). </p>

<p>Your parents may see a school that they think is a good fit for you and are not willing to pay the difference for a school that they do not think is cost effective. If they are willing to send you where you want to go and they have plenty of money to pay ‘full freight’ without a problem, so be it. Sometimes it helps having them in all of the discussions, because they may have some good insights that you may realize are important.</p>

<p>The list of match/high match that others have posted might be correct and may help you determine where you want to apply. After acceptances, you may want to visit your final picks to decide for sure.</p>

<p>My nephew who now has a PhD (is teaching on tenure track, and is maybe going on to law school to further his career) and his dissertation is a book (published) was a Rhodes finalist. He has an active and satisfying career. Since his parents wanted him to stay fairly close to home (he lived in Iowa), he decided that the best college for him was Drake (he was student body president as a Junior, was a Senator Aide one semester in DC, and triple majored with summa cum laude). What he did during his undergrad years was more important - he said the main things he ‘learned’ was how to read and write. He worked hard but was capable of the work load to be a top student. A mistake he made with Drake was that he tipped his hand that he really wanted to go there, and he did not get the top scholarship at the school (and did better at college than others that got the top scholarship).</p>

<p>The school(s) you think are exclusive and desirable may have a great overall appeal, but the major/degree might not be that strong. A small private school may not have the flexibility if you decide to change your major.</p>

<p>ACT/SAT and GPA are only one facet of admissions for selective schools. Perhaps your school guidance counselor can be helpful. If your parents indeed are financially comfortable, perhaps you want to pay someone to ‘help you’ with your admissions applications. There are automatic scholarships tied to these two facets with some schools (like UA). Someone could be smart (high ACT/SAT) but not so high GPA - meaning they are not willing to work at school, so less appealing candidate; a high GPA and not so high ACT/SAT also is a measure.</p>

<p>Learn all you can about the ‘selective’ schools you want to attend - the more you know, the better your application will be when you can relate your interest and how you can be an asset as part of the student body.</p>

<p>nnocnat2, maybe you didn’t want to hear more from me, but if you don’t, maybe other parents/students do. I have degrees from 3 universities all in different states (one private - double majored with honors, two graduate business degrees), worked for two universitities, and taught business courses at one. More importantly, I have followed my friends’ kids on their college pursuits (national merit and other terrific students), and have help guide my 2 DDs in this process - so I have recent experience (second D going to college in the fall). You have more ‘choices’ with OOS private and public options - so other parents/students can help you on that, but for my DDs degree pursuits, we found the best match (within our resources and with the best scholarships) at in-state public school (two different ones). Nursing major, and civil eng major.</p>

<p>I would encourage you to look at some of the schools in the Southeast College Consortium. If you major in something at one of those schools that UGA doesn’t offer, you pay in-state tuition. University of Maryland would be a great choice and a 30 ACT would work there - don’t know your GPA of course. But it’s a great school and you could potentially pay in-state tuition if you choose the right major.</p>

<p>To not be too long-winded, here’s some stuff I found online…</p>

<p>Boston College (couldn’t find the common data set)-
ACT Composite: 29 / 32
ACT English: 29 / 34
ACT Math: 28 / 33
ACT Writing: 8 / 10 </p>

<p>NYU-
<a href=“Research with Human Subjects”>Research with Human Subjects;

<p>UC Berkeley-
<a href=“http://opa.berkeley.edu/statistics/cds/2012-2013.pdf”>http://opa.berkeley.edu/statistics/cds/2012-2013.pdf&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p&gt;

<p>UCLA-
<a href=“http://www.aim.ucla.edu/profiles/cds.aspx”>http://www.aim.ucla.edu/profiles/cds.aspx&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p&gt;

<p>USC-
<a href=“Institutional Research, Assessment, and Analytics - Institutional Research, Assessment, and Analytics | University of South Carolina”>Institutional Research, Assessment, and Analytics - Institutional Research, Assessment, and Analytics | University of South Carolina;

<p>W&M-
<a href=“http://www.wm.edu/offices/iae/institutional_research_reporting/cds/”>http://www.wm.edu/offices/iae/institutional_research_reporting/cds/&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p&gt;

<p>University of Michigan-
<a href=“http://obp.umich.edu/wp-content/uploads/pubdata/cds/umaa_cds2012.pdf”>http://obp.umich.edu/wp-content/uploads/pubdata/cds/umaa_cds2012.pdf&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p&gt;

<p>UVA-
<a href=“http://avillage.web.virginia.edu/iaas/cds/cds1314all.shtm”>http://avillage.web.virginia.edu/iaas/cds/cds1314all.shtm&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p&gt;

<p>UNC-CH-
<a href=“http://oira.unc.edu/files/2014/02/cds_2013_2014.pdf”>http://oira.unc.edu/files/2014/02/cds_2013_2014.pdf&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p&gt;

<p>Most of the common data sets are fairly vague because of the 30-36 range. However, the percent of people below that range should be indicative of your chances. If you like this format and want to see it for other schools, just type in the school name followed by common data set. It should come up. Hope this helped</p>

<p>why does the gpa for uva say 4.22 when it’s on an unweighted scale that they are reporting?? @appplicant</p>

<p>I’m gonna have to assume that they use a scale that’s unique to the university. Just a guess though…</p>

<p>@SOSConcern, I’m sorry if I came across too defensive before. Thank you for your assistance and information. It is greatly appreciated. Regards</p>

<p>@applicant, thank you very much! These sites are great!</p>

<p>mnocnat2 you may be surprised (maybe disappointed) on what your parents will be willing to pay to a school above what they think meets the academic requirements for what you are pursuing. For example, they see school A as ‘good enough’, when they would have to pay $X/year more out of pocket for you to attend school B that you ‘love’. </p>

<p>My 2DDs have no concept of my H and my full financial picture or a full understanding of it, and they are 18 and 20. </p>

<p>You may be living in a very nice house and your parents drive very expensive cars, but they may have significant loans and not much set aside for retirement. They could own a business with a big bank loan. A parent could get sick and interrupt their income ability (I am a stage III cancer survivor; it happens).</p>

<p>Try to have enough communication, and look at enough colleges, so you do not have the frustration of completing applications to schools where you have too much out of pocket costs for your parents to want to consider. I would advise apply to some ‘reaches’ because if you have been reading enough of CC you might have a pretty good deal.</p>

<p>And you live close enough to UA to at least take a look at what is going on there…I know several GA students who are happy at UA (who had at least equivalent stats to you).</p>

<p>You also need to think about how far away from home do you want to be, and where you may want to live after college. Sometimes being far geographically becomes cumbersome on some school holidays, or isolating.</p>

<p>My DDs may have their careers take them far away, and we are fine with that. DH and I are about 10 years away from retirement.</p>

<p>I am glad you are asking questions and seeking info on a timely basis. That helps!</p>

<p>Boston College Reach
New York University Low Reach
UC Berkeley–High Reach
UC Los Angeles–Reach
University of Southern California
College of William and Mary—Reach
University of Michigan- Ann Arbor–Within Match/Low reach
University of Virginia High Reach
University of North Carolina- Chapel Hill High reach</p>

<p>That’s with an excellent GPA, top courses and everything else in order. </p>

<p>Also seek out information on what you specifically want to study, and also if you change your mind once at college, you can continue to study in the new field without having to change schools.</p>

<p>There is a lot to think about and explore. Get out and visit schools if you have not done so. As fast as junior year is going, your time for getting it all in during 1st semester senior year (all the applications and scholarship deadlines) and then all the follow up second semester with visits that are serious contenders …</p>

<p>For my two DDs, we did a lot of visits very early, and having worked at two universities and degrees in three states I was pretty college savvy. However we focused on what was needed. Senior year for both was a more relaxed pace once they both raised their ACT scores to better scholarship level (completed Oct and Dec prospectively for both). The extra scholarship money means they may have some of their set aside college money left after their undergrad based on the college pre-paid plan and scholarships.</p>

<p>I sadly read that some parents are making very big financial sacrifices - 2nd home loan, cash-flowing huge amounts rather than retirement saving. We did make financial sacrifices for private school through Grade 12 (DD2 attended a public school for 3 years for a phenomenal band and extra-curricular music activities before finishing HS at private). The honors programs at many public colleges help bring those undergraduate schools more in line with offerings at more expensive schools for many students.</p>

<p>Hopefully you are communicating and exploring with your parents. Maybe some parents will have an open checkbook for whatever school their student chooses, but you would be surprised at how many parents put the financial breaks on towards the ‘finish line’ of HS senior year. Many students are ‘disillusioned’ in the college process.</p>

<p>@SOSConcern Hi. I apologize for the delayed comment. Thank you for your very detailed responses. You’ve certainly given me a lot to think about. However, I would like it to be noted that I am exceedingly aware of the financial factors associated with college admissions. Please be sure that I wouldn’t be even considering these schools had I not had considerable reason to believe that it was a definite possibility for my family. My parents and I communicate regularly about these schools and their pros and cons. I have definitely done my research and am not new to this process. I am not naive and understand that there is still much to accomplish before I can consider myself truly prepared to apply to these schools. I also am constantly aware of the various financial circumstances families across the country are put into because of college tuition. Again, I appreciate the concern, but please believe, I will not by any means, ever be “disillusioned”. I firmly believe that this aspect of the process (financial) is a matter that is between the student and his/her family. I intend to keep it that way. Thank you</p>

<p>You have some very good information from other people on this thread. If you can achieve higher standardized test scores it will increase interest by many colleges.</p>