<p>What percentage from Alabama? What percentage from other states?</p>
<p>If hard statistics aren’t available, I’d be glad to hear some reasonable estimates.</p>
<p>I’m very interested to hear this, too.</p>
<p>If one were in the Honors college, would they be more likely to meet kids from all over, and therefore, not experience the cliques that most would encounter in a state school?</p>
<p>Son will be coming from Louisiana, and there are usually a good number that attend Bama, but he’s hoping to meet people from all over the country.</p>
<p>I have no idea if that stat is available.</p>
<p>But, such a stat may not tell anyone much. Many in-state Alabama students were not born in Alabama. Many are the children of high-tech “transplants.” So, a kid might be “from” Alabama for tuition purposes, but his roots are in California, Illinois, Indiana, Wisconsin, Mich, Mass, Maryland, Ohio, Texas, Penn, Washington, New Hampshire, or some other state. (I’m naming the states where my church friends and neighbors are from…LOL) </p>
<p>This is one of the reason why we don’t hear many southern accents amongst the students (or profs) at Alabama. I usually only hear southern accents from some of the clerial help. </p>
<p>I would say that the Honors College must have a greater percentage of OOS students than the regular student population simply because the recruited kids have the necessary stats for honors. :)</p>
<p>Just wanted to add…</p>
<p>The Honors College - Consists of 4 different programs - <a href=“http://honors.cbhp.ua.edu/index.php?page=uhp[/url]”>http://honors.cbhp.ua.edu/index.php?page=uhp</a></p>
<p>A qualified student can belong to more than one program, but to become a member of CBHP or Fellows, a student must be selected through an essay and interview process.</p>
<p>University Honors Program (UHP) - minimum ACT 28 (SAT 1250 M + CR) - UHP classes are limited to 15 students. UHP students have their own comuter labs.</p>
<p>International Honors Program (IHP) - minimum ACT 28 - IHP classes are limited to 15 students. IHP students must also focus on a foreign language and do a study-abroad.</p>
<p>Computer-Based Honors Program (CBHP) - only 40 students admitted to CBHP - average ACT 33 (typically includes a couple of “hook” students with ACT 28 - 30, but the others range ACT 31-36). The students’ majors range from Engineering to Liberal Arts to Pre-Med to Dance/Theatre to Library Science (and everything in between). Project-oriented research with a prof - fabulous presentations (I’ve been able to sit-in several students’ presentations of their individual research projects.) CBHP is a minor. CBHP students have their own lab facilities.</p>
<p>University Fellows Experience - (UFE or “Fellows”) only 40 students admitted to program - average ACT 33 (I think that’s the average that we were told., but includes kids within the ACT 28 - 36 range.) Project-oriented program.</p>
<p>The students in the Honors College are kids who score above the 90 percentile. Most of the kids in the CBHP and Fellows Program score in the 99 percentile.</p>
<p>Plus, various department majors have some honors classes. To take such classes, a student must be a member of UHP, too. </p>
<p>Last year, Dr. Halli (the recently retired dean of the honors college) told us that 25% of the incoming freshmen are now qualified for The Honors College. Therefore, he was concerned that Dr. Witt (the president) would insist that the minimum ACT be raised, since honors classes cost a lot more money (smaller classes). But, Dr. Witt said that UA would keep the 28 ACT minimum because the students were doing so well in those classes.</p>
<p>:)</p>
<p>My D will be a freshman fall 2010 and is from Kentucky. She is looking forward to attending Bama and being in the Honors College.</p>
<p>^^^How will you handle the football and basketball games?</p>
<p>Funny you should ask, we’ve already had this conversation at home. Husband and I are both UK grads, so we’re thinking we’ll be for Bama football and UK basketball at least until they play each other. That way we should have a winning team for both seasons. I think Bama has dropped UK from their football schedule for next year. UK has only won twice in the history of their playing each other.
BTW, little known fact, Bear Bryant was at UK before Alabama. He got tired of competing against legendary basketball coach Adolf Rupp for support from the university. BIG mistake on UK’s part, huge.</p>
<p>^^^</p>
<p>Great story about Bear Bryant!</p>
<p>Glad to hear your D will be at Bama next year.</p>
<p>Is she getting any scholarship money? :)</p>
<p>Yes, at least oos tuition, but D is also a NMSF. We are hoping she will be a finalist, and is also applying for Fellow. The opportunities are great at UA, and so are the facilities and people we have met.</p>
<p>Here’s my Kentucky/Alabama sports story.</p>
<p>On October 4, 1997 two Kentucky fans are walking to the car after the game.</p>
<p>One of them says: I have never felt this way in my entire life!</p>
<p>The other replies: And neither did your daddy or your granddaddy.</p>
<p>We’ve gotten off task on this thread, but here goes:
This just in…UK 21, Auburn 14… no joke. I think the last UK win over Auburn was 1966.</p>
<p>Yeah, and we even bet on that one</p>
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<p>On October 4, 1997 two Kentucky fans are walking to the car after the game.</p>
<p>One of them says: I have never felt this way in my entire life!</p>
<p>The other replies: And neither did your daddy or your granddaddy.
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<p>Ok…it’s after 12:30 am, and all cylinders aren’t firing right now…I need an explanation (then I’ll go to bed! LOL)</p>
<p>Too bad Florida won their game. They got very lucky towards the end when Arkansas got 2 very unfair penalties that cost a lot of yardage. FL then was able to score. The replays clearly showed that there weren’t any penalties committed. Too bad, if FL had lost, UA would be #1 tomorrow.</p>
<p>But, that said, what’s up with McElroy…he was good for a few games, but during the last two he’s fallen apart??? Last week, I thought he might have been ill, but 2 weeks in a row?</p>
<p>ok…bedtime…</p>
<p>A quick search of the UA website found that in the 2007-2008 academic year, roughly 29.5% of honors college freshmen were from OOS as per <a href=“http://oira.ua.edu/factbook/2008-2009/2008p057.pdf[/url]”>http://oira.ua.edu/factbook/2008-2009/2008p057.pdf</a> . In the university as a whole, 33% are OOS. While this data is becoming less accurate due to the university’s expansion, it gives a good idea. Hearing an Alabama accent from a student is not as easy as it seems, as mom2collegekids explained. Alabama also gets a lot of non-honors OOS students for various reasons. I know that we have a lot of Texans at UA for example who didn’t qualify under Texas’s top 10% rule, for example. </p>
<p>While students generally have residency in the southern states, Alabama is recruiting nationwide. I myself am from WA and meet people from around the country every day. Along with people moving around and settling in Alabama, Alabama also has a large military population that has moved around the country and the world. Interestingly enough, my parents will call me to tell me that they met a person from Alabama that day. The calls are quite frequent.</p>
<p>As for the homecoming week, it was amazing. The week was filled with fun events, including a pep rally on the quad, a bonfire, a parade, and the football game versus South Carolina (which was very exciting). It’s amazing how many semi-trucks go around the country decked out with university logos and such. There is a reason why so many songs mention the Crimson Tide in their lyrics. Roll Tide!</p>
<p>Why are there so many techie transplants in Alabama? Are there a lot of engineering jobs available in Alabama? What types, automotive, biomedical, computer? We passed the Mercedes Benz plant on the way to Birmingham earlier this year, but wondering what other big companies are basing in Alabama these days. Sounds like a good opportunity for internships for engineering majors.</p>
<p>Thrilled to hear the high percentage of OOS students at Bama. Son looking to settle in the midwest, and it would be great if he can make some connections while in undergrad.</p>
<p>^^^</p>
<p>Alabama is home to Cummings Research Park (CRP) - the second largest research park in the USA…the fourth largest in the world. Because of CRP, Madison County has the highest percentage of PhDs in the nation. </p>
<p>That’s why it’s a bit misleading when the stats say XX% of UA kids are in-state. Many are the children of transplants. They aren’t native or their parents aren’t native. That difference influences the culture at UA to be more cosmopolitan. It’s the main reason why there are many Catholics and other “not-traditionally southern” religions (or kids that have no religion) there.</p>
<p>Here’s a list of the major employers at CRP - [Huntsville</a> Alabama USA - Companies in CRP - Major Employers](<a href=“http://www.huntsvillealabamausa.com/new_exp/crp/companies/major.html]Huntsville”>http://www.huntsvillealabamausa.com/new_exp/crp/companies/major.html)</p>
<p>Here’s a list of the Fortune 500 at CRP - [Huntsville</a> Alabama USA - Companies in CRP - Fortune 500 Companies (2004 Rank)](<a href=“http://www.huntsvillealabamausa.com/new_exp/crp/companies/f500.html]Huntsville”>http://www.huntsvillealabamausa.com/new_exp/crp/companies/f500.html)</p>
<p>Here’s a list of the Fortune 1000 industries at CRP [Huntsville</a> Alabama USA - Fortune 1000 Industry Rankings for CRP Companies](<a href=“http://www.huntsvillealabamausa.com/new_exp/crp/companies/f1000.html]Huntsville”>http://www.huntsvillealabamausa.com/new_exp/crp/companies/f1000.html)</p>
<p>Here’s the Wikipedia description - [Cummings</a> Research Park - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia](<a href=“http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cummings_Research_Park]Cummings”>Cummings Research Park - Wikipedia)</p>
<p>in response to post #13…sorry for the inside joke, but check out this link:</p>
<p>[COLLEGE</a> FOOTBALL; After 75 Years, Kentucky Knocks Off Alabama - The New York Times](<a href=“http://www.nytimes.com/1997/10/05/sports/college-football-after-75-years-kentucky-knocks-off-alabama.html]COLLEGE”>http://www.nytimes.com/1997/10/05/sports/college-football-after-75-years-kentucky-knocks-off-alabama.html)</p>
<p>or if the link isn’t working try googling “kentucky alabama football 1997”</p>
<p>“The students in the Honors College are kids who score above the 90 percentile.”</p>
<p>Where do you get that stat? According to the app. the auto-admit has only to get 28 ACT or higher, no mention of GPA or rank. Just curious (and paranoid!) :)</p>
<p>A 28 ACT is the 91st percentile. Therefore, the kids who are in the honors program score above the 90th percentile.</p>
<p>My statement had nothing to do with class rank or GPA. Neither of those really tell much about a student, since both are related to their high school (and could be related to difficulty of course choices) A kid who is #1 at one school, might be #50 at another (or vice versa). A student who has “straight A’s” at one school, might have A’s and B’s at another. </p>
<p>So, don’t worry…the percentile was only related to test scores. But, I’m glad you asked, so that I could clarify!! :)</p>
<p>But…the point remains the same…when your kid is in honors classes or with a lot of honors kids, he/she will be with rather smart kids. These are kids who had very good GPAs and very good test scores. No wonder the profs WANT to be selected to teach those honors classes. Note…honors classes aren’t usually “harder” nor do they usually have more homework; honors classes are just taught from the perspective that you have a class full of smart kids. The discussions are more lively. The subject can have more depth. You can imagine. The same thing happens when you’re in a conversation with a bunch of smart people; it’s different from when you have a conversation on the same topic with others.</p>
<p>BTW…even though UA only requires a 3.5 GPA for honors, many have 4.0 GPAs. Dr. Witt sent a letter about that at some point. I forget the stat, but the percent in honors with 4.0 GPAs was very high. But, again, only a 3.5 GPA is needed. :)</p>
<p>^ thanks, confirmed what I thought I had read… the mere mention of class rank freaks me out, 4.10 for top 10% at DS’s school! Honors app is in, everything seems on track!</p>