<p>Where will you apply if denied or deferred from Dartmouth? And why - particularly any non-Ivy.</p>
<p>Well, for non-Ivies:
- Colgate
- Bucknell
- Tufts
- Caltech</p>
<p>The first three are just really great matches for me and I get good feelings from them. I am recruited for Caltech's girls volleyball, so while it is not my favorite, I still like it and I LOVE volleyball.</p>
<p>In kind of order of preference:
-Middlebury
-Cornell-HumEc
-Washington & Lee
-Bowdoin
-JHU
-Notre Dame (EA)
-Colgate
-Hamilton</p>
<p>Did you know that 65% of Colgate students were rejected by Dartmouth? It's kind of like the Dartmouth B-team.</p>
<p>That's pretty funny because Colgate is my son's second current 2nd choice. Today :)
Tufts
Amherst
Middlebury
Trinity
and as a twist: Georgetown. not sure why because it is completely different than any of the others.</p>
<p>Williams is a popular 'second choice'. Brown and Princeton too.</p>
<p>Princeton, Brown, Amherst, Tufts, and UMaine at Orono (state school)
I think that lists should be made based (at least partly) by the program you want to study. That's why I will apply to the schools above if I cannot attend Dartmouth. D is my first choice by far though so hopefully I won't be frantically filling out supplements in a couple of weeks :)</p>
<p>UCLA - my match
UC Berkeley - a great but also affordable university (i am instate)
UCSD - the beach
UCI - my safety
USC - business</p>
<p>brown is my second </p>
<p>amherst, wesleyan, bowdoin, carleton, jhu are on my list too</p>
<p>Brown and Yale are tied for second right now, with Colgate as fourth... but I didn't mention it before because they are Ivies.</p>
<p>Post #5: How does Georgetown differ from the other schools on your son's list? Lots in common with Colgate, Tufts, Middlebury & Trinity College, in my opinion.</p>
<p>Coldwind.. In a word: Georgetown is not rural in the least. Dartmouth - which he loves so much he barely can speak to it is not exactly located in a thriving metropolis. Same, if not more so, holds true at Colgate and Middlebury. Academically they may be similar. Location-wise.. not so much. Trinity is definitely on the edge, but I wouldn't suggest Trinity is as intertwined with the surrounding community as Georgetown. Even Amherst.. despite it being in the 5 school consortium is, by most accounts from current students, somewhat self-contained. I just thought Georgetown was very different to the rural enclave where most of his top choices are.</p>
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<p>When I was at Colgate, the number was 61%, which also included those who were W/L. I would say that Colgate, Bucknell, Middlebury would be suitable, similar, but back-up schools to Dartmouth. I've actually seen more accepted at Dartmouth and rejected at Williams than the other way around, so would say Williams is more a peer to Dartmouth selectivity-wise and otherwise than Colgate, Bucknell, Middlebury.</p>
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<p>Comments about Williams vs Dartmouth above. </p>
<p>Akin to Colgate being the Dartmouth reject school, I found when I visited Dartmouth to be the Princeton reject school; so wouldn't say Princeton is the second school to Dartmouth, but the other way around as no one getting into Princeton is going to Dartmouth. </p>
<p>I've gotten the impression Brown is very similar in selectivity as Dartmouth, with each school emphasizing different aspects of an application - Dartmouth more on SAT and Brown more on fit, presonal characteristics.</p>
<p>I put 'second choice' in quotes like that to indicate/mock the fact that it's not really lower, but students who are deferred ED often then apply to williams. Brown and Princeton are common too. My use of second choice does not mean less selective.</p>
<p>FWIW, I know two '12s who chose Dartmouth over Princeton.</p>
<p>AND, I know one person last year who was deferred then rejected but got into Princeton RD. (no legacy either) Another person at Harvard too.</p>
<p>I know that the majority of people would prefer Princeton over Dartmouth, but that's not what we were talking about. We were talking about students whose first choice was Dartmouth, and where they like to apply if they are unable to get in ED.</p>
<p>From the moment my son stepped onto D's campus he fell in love and I had to drag him out of there to go see Brown, which he didn't like. He went back to D this summer - and I thought the flight and bus ride might deter him. Loved it even more. Princeton he felt was too stuffy for him to even consider. His words were something like he found the students far more friendly and humble at D.</p>
<p>Georgetown,
Duke,
Yale,
Brown</p>
<p>Bates
Smith
Mount Holyoke
Boston College
American
Bryn Mawr
Villanova</p>
<p>not really in any order, except for Bates. I love Bates.</p>
<p>"We were talking about students whose first choice was Dartmouth, and where they like to apply if they are unable to get in ED."</p>
<p>An observation:
Students apply ED to a school for various reasons. Applying ED to a school does not necessary mean the school is their first choice. In fact, most students that I've known applied ED to a school they somewhat like to increase their chances of admission. This, of course, is not representative of the whole ED pool.</p>
<p>Hallowarts, I don't agree at all. Why risk going to your first choice school by applying ED to a lesser want? The ED decision is a binding one. And unless you are completely lacking in character, I can't imagine reneging on an ED agreement and frankly, I think you risk a great deal more. These highly selective colleges do not operate in a vacuum.</p>
<p>You might be confusing early action with early decision. The former is not binding, but the latter is (D doesn't offer EA).</p>