<p>CalX, most top US universities get hundreds of millions of $$$ from the federal governement, alums and corporations. In fact, at some schools like Harvard, Stanford, Michigan, Penn, Cornell etc..., that figure runs dangerously close to the billions on an annual basis.</p>
<p>I don't agree that McGill has a stronger international reputation than Cornell. I do agree that in some areas, like in countries where French is widely spoken(France, Switzerland, Belgium, Lebanon, etc...), McGill has a very strong reputation. But in other places, like England, Germany, South America and most of Asia, Cornell has a clear edge over McGill. You can ask my own sister, who happens to have degrees from both of those schools.</p>
<p>McGill ranked in the 60's world-wide on the research oriented Top 500 ranking by a top tech school in China. Toronto was in the 30's. That and other factors would place it in the lower end of the US Top 50.</p>
<p>I was ASKING what McGill strong points were, it wasn't a rhetorical question.</p>
<p>I know McGIll has strong points but business isn't one of them; it's not bad but there are better options even in Canada (namely U of T).</p>
<p>Something that helps both McGill and U of T in the international rankings is that they are HUGE schools, and someone said earlier that they were "big fish in a small pond", I think that's a great way of putting it.</p>
<p>Even french people who know McGill to be a great school don't put it over Cornell (half my family is french).</p>
<p>actually internationally mcgill is regarded at about 13 (times higher) but if you ask Americans, they tend to not know a lot about international schools. the majority of people in the states i speak to don't know of oxford or cambridge either. (top 5ish on the times higher).</p>
<p>so if you ask them, they'll at times have a biased towards their domestic education. </p>
<p>recognition-wise. it's one of the best. people in uganda have heard of it, lol</p>
<p>Concerning the McGill - Cornell comparison...
I've applied to both schools and I've been accepted at both...
When it came to the financial aid issue, McGill definitely won over Cornell...
Cornell may have an endowment of 3.8 billion $, but when I asked for financial aid, they couldn't spare a dime...
McGill on the other hand, managed to squeeze 15000 $ out of their 800 million $ endowment...</p>
<p>The conclusion? McGill is tops for me, as far as I am concerned...</p>
<p>In the just-released annual Times Higher-QS World University Rankings, McGill University placed 12th overallthe first time a Canadian university has cracked the top 15 to join Harvard, Oxford, Cambridge, Yale and others among the dozen best universities in the world. The school also ranked ahead of such prestigious US universities as Duke, Stanford, John Hopkins and Cornell. As with last year, Harvard topped the list, with Oxford, Cambridge and Yale tied for second. McGill also had the distinction of being classed as the best public university on the continent. The University of British Columbia (33rd) and the University of Toronto (45th) were the only other two Canadian universities to crack the Top 50.</p>
<p>^That ranking, like most college rankings, doesn't mean anything. Stanford was #5 when they ranked McGill #24 two years ago. Now McGill is 12 while Stanford is 19. Somehow I don't think these numbers are reliable indicators.</p>
<p>There is no way McGill is more internationally prestigious than Cornell. Coming from a family that primarily hangs around international academics, and lived in several regions outside of the US, I've always heard people talking about research done in Cornell and how they want to get a position there, but I've never even heard of McGill until college search season. Okay, maybe France, don't know about them, but if it's Asia or Latin America or non-French Europe, Cornell is much more renowned.</p>
<p>Noocake, as an alum of Cornell, I am very proud of the university. However, I would not go so far as to say that Cornell's reputation is "more than tenfold that of McGill". In my opinion, Cornell is more reputable, but only by a slight margin. McGill is truly a World-class university.</p>
<p>McGill has definitely slipped a bit because of the lack of funding. I liken it to U Michigan. It has similar selectivity for local applicants. The average non-athlete applicant getting into the Ivy League,however, is intellectually above that of McGill and U Michigan, which is not to say that smart people don't go to McGill and U Michigan.</p>
<p>If we look at the individual components -- student selectivity, resources, and faculty research/quality -- it is unlikely that McGill can be compared to the top 20 in the US.</p>
<p>As others have noted, its undergrad profile is more like a good US state university, perhaps with even less selectivity than UCLA or Michigan.</p>
<p>Its resources and endowment are good but falling further behind the US top 20.</p>
<p>It research quality is strong but -- with the possible exception of medicine -- not really comparable to the US top 20. Though flawed, I think the Chinese rankings give a rough idea of where they stand. Moreover, in terms of hiring it cannot compete with the top 20 US schools. They are unlikely to be able to hire many strong researchers away from top 20, even from top 30 or 40 departments in the US to move them to Canada. A lot of their best people are legacies of a stronger period. I would wager that their ability to hire and retain top people will decline further in the next decade or so because of financial problems. Certainly in the fields I am familiar with, I don't see many who would willingly turn down a top 30, possibly even a top 50 or 60 department offer in the US for McGill unless they have unusual ties to Canada. And I don't see them offering the large compensating differentials required to hire top people -- which is typical in the US for departments that are trying to move up.</p>
<p>mean SAT IS 2060. It requires two SAT subject tests. It's up there with high entering averages on tests/grades. It's basically like john hopkins, which is ranked 14.</p>
<p>John Hopkins mean SAT Is 2075. Both schools accept people who take hard ap/ib classes and have good grades. It's in the top 20, near JHU.</p>