Which Art School?

@SomaRathore what is her first choice major?

Communication Design (and its showing either GD or Illustration and she picked GD). For the second major there was an only Graphic Design BFA choice I am not sure how they are different.

@SomaRathore - Hmm. that is odd. the Pratt website hasn’t changed in terms of how it offers the GD major under the BFA program. The choices for BFA should be Communication Design (Graphic Design or Illustration or Advertising Art). Pratt also offers a 2 year AOS degree specifically in Graphic Design or Illustration. I know that all those choices are on the application because it’s just one app. for a wide variety of programs! Just make sure she’s clicked on the majors pertaining to the 4-year degrees.

This is what I see
On page 3 when it asks for a second major it’s offering the “Graphic Design/BFA” option. I don’t think this is the two years AAS. In the first major the Commnication Design (graphic design) was selected.
We chked the PrattMWP and it’s allowing ya to pick communication desig-graphic design there as the BFA

@SomaRathore ok. Wish I could help but I think we tossed my D’s application once she got her acceptance! I’d give Admissions a call and get them to clear up any confusion. Last I remember, PrattMWP replicated Pratt Brooklyn’s major structure so that you seamlessly move to the Brooklyn campus in year 3.

Good luck to your D!

In case you are interested in another perspective, my D briefly considered attending art school - I can’t tell you how many communications Pratt sent, but it was a ton. She ultimately decided on a small LAC, intending to major in Graphic and Interactive Design. Her stats are only a bit higher than OPs, but were heavily weighted in favor of the reading/writing portion with a no-prep 760 (I’m a mathematician - go figure).

She just started at Moravian College, and it seems like a great fit for her, with plenty of individual attention. She’s also relatively introverted and not into the party scene at this point, but so far the school has done everything I could have hoped to aid her transition into college life.

She’s likely to double major in English, going the BA route for GD instead of the recently introduced BFA. I suppose that could change, depending how she feels about her core art classes over these first two semesters. But wherever her life takes her, she will benefit from the communication and other skills she learns and develops in this liberal arts environment. Bethlehem, PA is just the right size for her and has some charm. In our case, the distance from home is ideal at less than 1.5 hours, and the merit she received makes it affordable.

@RandyErika Thanks much for your input. She is determined to a BFA degree (just art and no liberal arts). I wish we had options instate and closer to home. We do have some however they are just small schools with the state schools offering a couple of art programs unlike a vast amount of options that a typical art school (or even a state school with a good art department offers).
Our plan is to do visits once we have some idea to what schools she gets in AND what we can afford among them.
regarding the SAT, she is stubborn enough to not take it again. I had posted about this in another board but she took in only once and with an okay score. But refuses to do better. There is something I cannot do anything about even though i know it will increase her chance of scholarship :frowning: She has a 660 in English and a 640 in Math in a 0 prep SAT she took. The only one.

@ArtAngst @gouf78 and to all the others who have had experience, what does she take to portfolio day? Ours is coming up soon, and her art teachers advised to take the photos (as it would be uploaded to slideroom) on her phone, saying the actual art pieces are not required. Whereas I am seeing some places suggesting to take sketch books and all. Is she to carry all her art there? Sorry if I sound dumb! There is a first time to everything, and I am learning :slight_smile:

Take sketchbooks. I’d mark any places I thought were the best. But a reviewer will look through all of it maybe.

Take actual art pieces if not too large and cumbersome–if you’re driving and it’s not hard then take the best actual pieces. If you have sculpture or large paintings etc that are difficult to transport then take photos–I would put the photos in an art portfolio book rather than have them only on a phone (of course you can do that too). Have a book for someone to look at and review (so much easier and more professional than saying “here’s my phone!, swipe left, no, I meant right!”. Originals show the true colors of a painting if that is a concern. Things just look better in real life and in a larger format where details can be seen.

Sketchbooks are great because they allow the reviewer to flip through and see process work and growth. My D had one particular sketch that a reviewer loved because of the action in it and told her to focus on that process. It’s something D would have totally overlooked simply because it WAS a sketch–and a small one at that.

Good luck! And HAVE FUN! The lines get long–listen to different reviews (even if not yours) so you can to get a good vibe on what different schools are looking for. Scout out what other students have in the way of artwork–just out of curiosity–you can learn a lot in a short amount of time.

You want to bring a sampling (no more than 20?) of the actual pieces that you can reasonably carry (and hold for a long time in lines!). The reviewers want to see their actual ‘hand’ - ie what does their brush strokes, pencil lines etc look like.

On a cell phone is NOT a good idea. However, they know some students work in big mediums and/or sculpture and ceramics and that is ok to bring an ipad or something like that with a slide show. My oldest had a lot of 3D pieces too and she had those pre-loaded on a laptop slide show (along with some larger paintings) to show them.

Tables are NOT big, your general display size table, so the more organized your student is the better.

My kids generally had smaller work all in a 18x24 portfolio binder (the kind with the clear sleeves you slide your work in) and larger pieces in a 24x36 portfolio bag to pull out as needed. Also schools sometimes want to see sketchbooks so those were in their portfolio bags too. So everything went into the one big bag and they carried themselves. If you don’t have one already, get one with a good handle, shoulder strap and outside storage pockets (good for sketchbooks and laptops). They’ll use it all during art school too.

With that said, I have seen parents go by with a whole dolly system and HUGE paintings. But honestly, that seemed like torture on mom and dad. :wink:

@gouf78 @ArtAngst Thank you so much! have communicated with daughter.
Slideshow sound def better than scrolling right and left on an iphone :wink: She will take her laptop for the things that cant be carried
Do the art pieces need to be the same pieces that go in application portfolio submission ? or other pieces can be taken too? She takes art lessons and has some there…

No, the pieces don’t have to go into your application portfolio unless you want them too.
But pretend it IS your application portfolio and include only your best work (sketch book aside). What you take is up to you but realize your time is limited usually just because there are a lot of people. So say you have 3 portraits and you love them all–just pick your best.
Lap top is great. Just make sure it’s charged and ready to go. Still bring originals if able.

Most often a reviewer will point out the things they love and what to focus on in future works to make a stronger portfolio. What they love will depend on the school (always interesting to see how different the vibe can be) and your intended major.
. At the National Portfolio Day at Ringling there were different tables for the different majors since each discipline was looking for different qualities in the work. For example, still life (no matter how many awards bestowed) got a second glance at the computer animation table where action was king.

Get there early! If there is a specific school you’re interested in, make a bee line to it! Play touch tag and scout out the place. Listen to (hate to say eavesdrop!) on reviews. You can learn a ton even if the review is not specific to your child.
You can learn a lot from other people in line also–they all love to talk in my experience.
(If you can, look up to see which schools are attending so you know who to look for).

And get in the RIGHT line! Remember I said Ringling had different tables (not every school does)? We didn’t realize that at first. When you get in what you think is the right line, ASK to make sure. Wish we had!

And whatever you do, DON’T get intimidated by what you see. It’s fun to see what type art other kids are doing but some of them (and their parents) can be over the top as ArtAngst said. Some have won major awards and bring all the newspaper articles to prove it. Don’t compare your kid’s art to anybody else’s.
Just check out the schools and listen for the type of things a reviewer is looking for that major.

FWIW the best predictor of success (timely graduation) at any type of college is H.S. GPA. Gifted students who cannot meet deadlines and keep up with the work load due to distractions tend to flunk out. ALL schools prefer applicants most likely to complete their programs because graduates 4 years of money instead of 1, 2, or 3 years.

Any views on Kansas City Art Institute?

Just saw this and wanted to add our experience from last year Art School applications. Our girl applied to some instates (non art) and SAIC and UMich Stamps. I noticed SAIC on your list, and I noticed your daughter’s awesome stats. We are instate Michigan, but Chicago is super close. Both programs impressed her at National Portfolio Day. She applied to both, and received SAIC Honors Scholarship $75K (her stats are very close to your daughters but lower SAT score than your daughter). This is their 2nd highest Scholarship (I think), with their Presidential being $100K (I think). Sounds like a ton of money until you realize their tuition is about $65K per year! She was also accepted into UMich Stamps. UMich is stingy with scholarships, and even though she didn’t receive one it was cheaper than SAIC with the scholarship (since we are instate). Since UMich is so prestigious and she grew up bathed in Maize and Blue, she ended up there and IS LOVING IT. They have a general Art & Design degree and she’s digging the vibe in Ann Arbor. SAIC was awesome too, but it is highly conceptual and some students don’t love that. The dorm rooms at SAIC were incredible (Lake Michigan views!), and the downtown Chicago campus is really slick. Only regret I have is that she didn’t apply to more schools, but she would argue she is where she is supposed to be!!!

Best of luck! She’s going to have a ton to choose from, I’m guessing!

@ArtAngst @gouf78 So we had out NPD today. Just got back. Managed to take some on laptop and some in a portfolio bag. We could visit SVA, MICA PARSONS, PRATTMWP RIT SAIC VCU and the last few min in RISD (they had to leave midway as it was time to close). She got an acceptance from RIT in graphic design. PARSONS and VCU sounded very positive and asked her to apply and that they are looking forward to seeing her at school. Now RIT was not really one of our first choices and though we picked to apply we didnt look too much into it so we have no idea how it ranks with Pratt etc. She really didnt get a good feel for SAIC for some reason. SVA was good and they had visited her school too. MICA appreciated her work a lot but did not critique at all and it felt like a waste of time just to stand in the line for so long and to hear great and cool and really good and nothing else. She does not know if its good enough to submit. Prattmwp had a very long discussion and went over each art so it feels we got a lot out of it. Since we havent visited any schools I dont know if we should drop any schools at this point by just the feel (She doesnt want to apply to SAIC). I cannot really explain in words what she didnt like about that school but i think I felt a bit of it too. More like they do not know what they were looking for rather than guiding us in a particular direction. Sort of vague. The only concrete suggestion she got is to explore more tools in photoshop!

I guess we will just go ahead and apply to the ones in the list except for the second thoughts about SAIC. I have to look into RIT now and see how good or comparable their program is to Pratt or parsons in graphic/communication designs. Any feedback is appreciated. Pratt and SVA is somehow appealing to her a lot more than others these days and maybe some what of Parsons too.
Thank you so much for all your help. I will keep reading here as we apply and wait.

@ProudArtMom Thanks for your feedback! Both SAIC and Michigan are OOS for us. She is applying to CCS Detroit at this point but for various reasons we didnt do stamps. She was very looking to forward to SAIC but for some reason (see above) that enthusiasm fizzled out today. So to apply wait and see now :slight_smile:

Pratt, SVA, Parson…sounds as if your daughter has a yen to be in NYC? Our daughter visited and applied to all of those schools so feel free to float out your questions and concerns. Good luck!

Yes totally! We are in Texas and she does not like it here. I have a feeling she will get in a couple of those schools but unless we know how much in scholarship she gets and how much we can afford :frowning:
since she already is accepted in RIT we have to compare and see, both finances how good the program

@SomaRathore sounds like NPD was a great success. You really made it to a lot of schools! As you discovered, sometimes those lines can take forever…and it’s frustrating when you student doesn’t get much in the way of feedback.

I’ve heard similar complaints about SAIC. Neither of my kids showed interest in the school and alot of that was based on how much their program seems to emphasize conceptual art…which is not my kids’ interests or approach to art. But to be fair, I don’t really have any first hand knowledge, just the vibe they got from their research etc.

RIT is worth looking at. It’s got a well-respected program within a large university that has a lot to offer. HOWEVER, if your daughter is excited about NYC, RIT might not be appealing. DD had her portfolio accepted by them to and we went to visit and it is big campus in a very rural/suburban area. Lots to do on campus but not much in the surrounding area since the campus is way out on the outskirts of Rochester. But I have a friend who’s a graduate from there in illustration and know a recent grad in computer game design and they both spoke highly of their experiences.

I would guess with MICA if they liked it in general, she’s good to go with an application with them. I’ve met some of their reviewers and they definitely tend to be more ‘positive’ than constructive. DS got more of ‘we want to see more of this kind of work’ as a junior - however he had an on-campus, individual review in April and got a lot more specifics out of that. My guess is they too get overloaded with their lines at NPD.

Good luck! DS is starting in on some early action applications and so things are getting a wee bit STRESSED at my house. Fingers crossed for all of us! ;D

For what it’s worth, RIT offered our daughter a substantial merit/aid package. SVA was one of the lower offers. Have you considered the University of the Arts in Philadelphia? It’s a wonderful school, in the heart of the Philadelphia theater district, and is unique in that it offers programs spanning visual, performance, and liberal arts. I mention this because Philadelphia is a very cool city and perhaps a bit more accessible to someone not used to a big city. The school also offered our daughter her highest package of them all.