<p>Title speaks from itself. Which California community colege gives me the best chances of transfering into UCLA, assuming I am enrolled in the TAP and honors program? Note: I live in the Inland Empire and am like ten minutes away from Chaffey. I am trying to keep my commute time to 45 minutes and under.</p>
<p>Rio Hondo, Chaffey, Mt. SAC, Riverside Community College, San Bernandino Valley College, Victor Valley College..goal: to transfer to UCLA.</p>
<p>Check this out.</p>
<h1>1 transfer CCC to UCLA: Santa Monica College 14.4%</h1>
<h1>2 transfer CCC to UCLA: Orange Coast College 4.35%</h1>
<p>Ooops...</p>
<h1>2 is De Anza College: 4.5%</h1>
<h1>3 is Orange Coast College</h1>
<p>They don't differentiate between schools during the admissions process, happycrayon. The numbers or percentages can be misleading in that regard. Some schools send more students to particular UCs, but that has nothing to do with whether going to a school will actually raise your chance of admission.</p>
<p>Of course admissions does not differentiate, but she asked, "Which California community colege gives me the best chances of transfering into UCLA?" Obviously, there is not clear cut way of determining this without stats. Everyone knows statistics can be misleading, but it doesn't take away from the fact they can be used as a guideline when determining which CCC is the "best" for transferring. I certainly wouldn't want to go to a CCC where UCLA only accepts .01% of their applicants.</p>
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<p>The .1% figure would mean nothing. All of these stats mean nothing because they DON'T DIFFERENTIATE! If 1 student got in out of 500 at a given community college, it would simply mean that there was a large amount of unqualified applicants, since we agree that the college has no effect on admissions. It seems like you aren't actually grasping that.</p>
<p>And let's not assume that happycrayon is aware of the fact that it has no effect. The question: "Which California community colege gives me the best chances of transfering into UCLA" seems to imply that having marks from a different college will affect whether he/she gets in or not.</p>
<p>The reason certain schools have more transfers, by the way, is because of the fact that they have more qualified students. The ccc-uc system is built on a few feeder schools. You can make an argument that it's better to go to feeder schools to be with lots of other transfer students, for instance. But there is no real admissions advantage to going to a feeder school or not. In fact, because of geographic diversity being factored into admissions, there's a chance that going to a school with very few transfers will increase your admissions chances.</p>
<p>I never said the CCC you attend has a direct impact on whether or not you are accepted. All I am saying is there is a reason UCLA choses to put these particular stats on THEIR WEBSITE: to give students an IDEA of what there chances are when transferring by looking at the success rate of various CCC. IT DOES NOT MATTER IF THE ADMISSIONS PEOPLE DO NOT DIFFERENTIATE, it is simply showing that some schools just do better....in fact, year after year, the same numbers come out..so, obviously there may be an advantage of choosing SMC..maybe they have better counselors, maybe they offer all classes needed and have more qualified teachers..who knows! Obviously, other factors play into it, but happycrayon did say she was planning on doing the TAP and honors program. I believe if she does that, and if stats (which is all anyone really has to go by..whether you think they are skewed or not) are any indicator, then she had a great shot of getting into UCLA.</p>
<p>p.s. gabew42..I don't know why you insist on being argumentative on every single thread on CC. This is a college forum in which everyone has the right to their opinion. Stop being so harsh and critizing student's advice because you THINK you are right.</p>
<p>Talkell, me being 'argumentative' is not about personalities, about personal conflict, about personal anything. It's simply about illustrating these issues and putting a lot of information into the forum. Everyone has a right to post on the forum; every opinion, however, is not equal, or useful. Many "opinions" are blatantly wrong (factually and otherwise) and should be noted as such.</p>
<p>Hopefully we can all discuss these issues without worrying about personal issues. Treat each post as if it is from an anonymous source.</p>
<p>Ha, good one WillDo.</p>
<p>"Treat each post as if it is from an anonymous source." Funny you say that after addressing your last post directly to me. :-)</p>
<p>Have a wonderful spring break.</p>
<p>Wow, you guys can't see that Willdo was being sarcastic?</p>
<p>I think the fact of the matter is that colleges technically do not differentiate by school. Gabe is right. It's not an opinion. like "Colleges DO differentiate by GPA" is not an opinion; it's a fact. However, one could argue the statistitcs on the UCLA website are indicative of the quality teaching or performance of the school as a whole (obviously a poor performing school that does not prepare it's students well whether it be by grades or EC's etc. is not going to be able to send many qualified applicants). You might be able to argue that against Gabe. But I wouldn't dabble too much on this "argumentative opinion" thing. Whether or not you thnk gabe is a jerk, he's still right.</p>
<p>Let me get this right...gabe is right because "colleges technically do not differentiate by school"? HELLO! Why don't you read the threads I previously posted which say, "I never said the CCC you attend has a direct impact on whether or not you are accepted" and "Of course admissions does not differentiate." </p>
<p>You guys are arguing on an assumption I said it matters where you go to community college when I never said that. It's no wonder you go to a community college.</p>
<p>hey gabe..good luck with your .75% golden west chances.</p>
<p>Well, I don't really think I'm arguing. To be quite frank, I'm not too concerned about UCLA because I don't even plan to transfer there. </p>
<p>Talkkell, I never said you were wrong and the post you pointed out was very informative. I just didn't understand why you had to call gabe's statement an "opinion" when you clearly agreed with it being true to fact. I also don't really understand how you pointed out gabe's poor argumentative etiquette when you and kevtech are making sexual inuendos about "willdo"s name. Seems kind of unwarranted. </p>
<p>But if anyone is offended with what I say, take it with a grain of salt. We gotta lose this constant "us v.s them" mentality that is always on the forums regarding disagreement between "opinons" or "facts" or anything else. That's not why this place was created. Let's stop the bickering and making idle talk and go back to why we're here.</p>
<p>Well, if we're talking about the UCs or other non-CSU schools, I'd generally avoid CCCs in the upper reaches of Northern California. Upper NorCal is kind of like a caricature of the South under Jim Crow (plenty of Conferderate flags and KKk and white supremacy group satellites here). </p>
<p>Also, the schools kind of blow. In the Shasta- Tehama district, every CCC in the area is kind of organized to favor the CSUs. During orientation, you're subjected to a speech about how the difference between UC and CSU is kind of illusory, which I think is unintentionally hilarious, and filled in on every single detail of their transfer agreement with Chico. (Basically, you are guaranteed admission as long as you manage to retain a 2.00 GPA or higher after satisfying CSU breadth requirements.) Then you find out that it's a handicap attending the school if your major involves anything other than performance arts, math, or physical sciences. If you fall out of those categories, you'll only be able to fufill the IGETC and pray that non-CSU schools will not hold your skimpy major preparation against you.(Also, the people working at A&R are morons. When it came time to get my transcripts in order for transfer, a woman with shaky English skills tabulated the last semester's GPA by counting her fingers and asked me to check her work at one point. I'm not ****ting you.)</p>
<p>On the plus side, it seems the sheer lack of their offering may work in your favor. Last year, two of my friends were accepted to UCLA with GPAs in the 3.4-3.6 range and another was accepted to Berkeley's Haas program with a 3.6, which is quite low for them as I understand it. So far, I've been accepted to UCSC and UCSB with next to no prep for my major (Philosophy). I'm waiting for UCLA, UCB, and UCI to get back to me.</p>
<p>Mt. Sac all the way.</p>
<p>Well since it's community college, I say pick the one thats closest. The enviornment will thank you.</p>
<p>Wouldn't it be best to go to a CCC that had TAP?</p>
<p>definitly. last year at smc's tap 92/94 got in. Some people say they had terrific gpa regardless. but i actually know several that were 3.2is.</p>
<p>good luck</p>