Which is best?

<p>Okay, so next year I am going to go on exchange to a university in the states, the uni I go to here has 'partner' universities that they work with, problem is that I don't really know which ones are better. So I will give you all out there my narrowed down list, and what I am kinda hoping for experience wise, and maybe you can give me some insight...?</p>

<p>Boston College- (I love Boston, but there is no on-campus housing available for international students)</p>

<p>Purdue University-(in whoop-whoop, but it looks impressive)</p>

<p>Clarkson University- (looks like not such a great school, but is it close to NYC? because that would be a plus)</p>

<p>Penn state, University Park- (Is this school too big to get that 'college experience'?)</p>

<p>SUNY-buffalo (Is there on campus living?)</p>

<p>Washington College (don't really no anything about this, what is the weather like in Maryland?)</p>

<p>University of Pennsylvania- (This school is really good, I know that but is it too competitive to be fun?)</p>

<p>Anywho, I want to experience american college life, and am looking for a school that is friendly and that preferably has an okay music and/or drama department, I am studying Psychology but I dabble in the performing arts, and so will probably want to there also. Give me your opinions, I will be eternally greatful</p>

<p>Jenna,
An Aussie</p>

<p>P.S I would like to see snow :)</p>

<p>I would pick University of Pennsylvania. Purdue and Boston College may be another good choice. Good Luck!</p>

<p>jenna - I presume you will exchange for just one year. Yes?</p>

<p>UPenn is a wonderful school academically, and is know as the most social of the Ivy League schools. It is also a city school, with all the plus’ and minus’ that come with city living.</p>

<p>Boston College is actually in a suburb of Boston. Good school, lots of college spirit. </p>

<p>Penn State probably has the most “college experience” from those on your list. It’s a large, diverse, spirited place with many strong majors. It’s also quite isolated.</p>

<p>Washington College is also isolated, if that’s possible in a state as small as Maryland. Weather is OK.</p>

<p>SUNY-Buffalo is a decent school not well-known outside of New York. Winter weather is dreadful IMHO.</p>

<p>I don’t know anything about Purdue or Clarkson. Sorry.</p>

<p>Don’t go to Purdue, Clarkson, or SUNY-Buffalo. Horrible schools (unless your engineering-minded), and, in case you care, extremely ugly girls for all of these. The M/F ratio is way screwed up and it shows. Also, Clarkson is in the middle of nowhere (montreal is the closest large city, 3 hours away), SUNY-Buffalo is primarily a commuter school, and Purdue is a haven for extraordinarily ugly women and political incorrectness. (otherwise known as Limbaugh’s world)</p>

<p>As for the rest of your choices… probably UPenn would be best, with BC a very close second. Boston and Philly are both awesome, and going to UPenn will enable you to say “I went to an Ivy League”, but again the workload <em>may</em> be bad, so ask on its subforum here on CC. BC would be first if it wasn’t for the housing situation, but not by much.</p>

<p>As for Washington University… I have never heard of it. However, Maryland’s weather is fairly temperate, with maybe a big snowfall or two a year. Again, you’ll see snow, but it won’t be there everyday. Don’t expect a white Christmas if you choose here.</p>

<p>Jenna - I don’t think there’s much merit in anything OHKID offered above. But I’m guessing you already figured that out.</p>

<p>uPenn then BC.</p>

<p>Btw OHKID, PIC>PC.</p>

<p>No need to be intolerant and ignorant.</p>

<p>DEFINITELY NOT PURDUE OR CLARKSON, liberal arts programs are awful there…</p>

<p>I vote for BC, Boston is an amazing city to experience on an exchange</p>

<p>Penn has plenty to offer in the performing arts.</p>

<p>[University</a> of Pennsylvania - Department of Music](<a href=“http://www.sas.upenn.edu/music/performance/ensembles/index.html]University”>http://www.sas.upenn.edu/music/performance/ensembles/index.html)</p>

<p>[University</a> of Pennsylvania - Theatre Arts Program](<a href=“Theatre Arts Program | Theatre Arts Program”>Theatre Arts Program | Theatre Arts Program)</p>

<p>[Student</a> Performing Arts Groups at Penn](<a href=“University Life”>University Life)</p>

<p>[Platt</a> Student Performing Arts House](<a href=“http://www.vpul.upenn.edu/platthouse/]Platt”>Home - Platt Performing Arts House)</p>

<p>[Performing</a> Arts Council](<a href=“http://www.dolphin.upenn.edu/pac/]Performing”>http://www.dolphin.upenn.edu/pac/)</p>

<p>Penn also has the strongest psychology program of those listed, and I don’t think you’ll find the university overly competitive.</p>

<p>Boston College!! Though I am biased… I’ll be there next year, myself!</p>

<p>Go to Penn
and if you don’t like that for whatever reason Purdue or BU</p>

<p>Hi Jenna!</p>

<p>From what I know, I concur with NewHope33 in post #3. UPenn would be the choice if you really enjoy academics. BC would be best if you want to experience an American city with less of the academic emphasis (in a relative sense - still a good school) and more of the typical college experience (the Ivies are great, but NOT typical). Penn State is your choice if you want extreme school spirit (particularly concerning American football - an experience in and of itself), but there’s not much outside of PSU in town. Washington College would be right for you if you want a small, intimate learning environment (and not TOO far from Baltimore and Washington, DC - around 100 klicks, give or take).</p>

<p>I’m guessing you might be disappointed in the other choices (though they are a fit for others). Purdue is dominated by engineering - not the most social of schools, kinda a ‘blah’ campus, and in the middle of nowhere. Clarkson is also dominated by engineers (besides being isolated) with little to offer in the arts (though the male/female ratio would definitely be in your favor!). :stuck_out_tongue: SUNY-Buffalo would give you your wish of seeing snow, after which you’d likely never want to see it again (they average nearly 2.5 meters of snow per year!). :eek:</p>

<p>Figure out what’s important to you, and check out the various websites (including each school’s) to learn what you can. Best of luck!</p>

<p>Definitely UPenn.</p>

<p>Thank you everyone for being so helpful! I have been looking at all the websites and although UPenn does seem to be the best school it is also the most expensive, I don’t have to pay for tuition but I do have to pay for room and board.
Purdue was the cheapest but I am definetley not engineering minded, is it really that bad for liberal arts? Also thanks OHKID, for being brutally honest I do want a wide varity of opinions before I choose, although the ugly girls thing does not bother me as long as the guys are not ugly :slight_smile:
I am intruiged to find out more about Penn State, there are a couple of campuses, but I wouldn’t have to travel between them would I? And is it very big, I have heard that state universities are really impersonal?
I think Boston will be my first choice but only if they let internationals live on campus next year, because I think living on campus is the way to experience true ‘college life’ would you agree?
Anywho thanks for the advice, and if your willing, some more would be greatly appriciated.
Jenna</p>

<p>jefer1, Purdue is a terrible school to go for liberal arts, only go there if you are doing a science or engineering major. Penn State is a great college experience. 40,000 students packed in one tiny town, if you are considering it I would recommend it.</p>

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<p>Well, if you go by the mean monthly temperatures, it’s “temperate”.
In reality, it sucks. </p>

<p>Outdoors in July and August, it’s like living inside a dog’s mouth.
Winters usually are not too bad, but in my memory temps have gone as far down as -15F with up to 2’ of snow at a time, which does not melt quickly as it does say in Colorado. Lots of freezing rain and ice. At the mere mention of “snow”, cities go into panic mode, toilet paper and bread fly off the shelves, school is canceled, the cable TV fails. We get hurricanes up from the Gulf, major thunderstorms, occasional tornadoes, droughts, floods, all sorts of vile insects and weeds that thrive on heat and moisture. Every surrounding region throws its crap our way after it’s done with it, but it all cancels out in delightful-sounding monthly averages.</p>

<p>Let me take another stab at this. From your posts, it sounds like you’ve narrowed things down to UPenn, BC, Penn State, and Purdue. Here’s my take on each:</p>

<p>UPenn is one of the eight Ivy League schools (considered the most prestigious colleges in the US and including Harvard, Yale, and Princeton). It has extremely competitive admissions, even for the top 1% of HS graduates. Your peers would be bright and (for the most part) motivated, but as stated earlier, UPenn is considered the most social of the Ivies. The neighborhood around campus is not the greatest, but you can be safe by following basic precautions. Philly itself can be a lot of fun. If academics are your top priority, UPenn is your choice - a no-brainer.</p>

<p>Boston College is not “in” Boston per se, but it’s on the subway line (the “T”) which easily takes you into town (Boston is a great city). While a step down from UPenn, BC is still a very good school. Students tend to be white, middle-class, and from the northeast US. I agree that not being on campus could be a problem, as you might miss out on a lot of the college experience (and they don’t have a Greek system, so that’s not an option), but if you could arrange housing with other BC students off campus ahead of time (maybe meet them at an orientation the previous summer?), I expect you’d get along fine. While perhaps not tops in any of the criteria you want, it might meet more of what I think you’re looking for than the other choices.</p>

<p>Penn State is a public university, meaning the cost to attend for residents of Pennsylvania is relatively low. It is a HUGE place, dominating the town it’s in (there are several campuses, but the main one - University Park - in State College, PA is the only one you should consider. And no, you wouldn’t travel between campuses). School spirit is as high here as at any college in the US, particularly concerning American football. Academically, it’s considered a small step down from BC, but again still good with tons of majors. While you might have less interaction with professors and students in some of your classes than at your other choices, with so many people, you’re bound to find others with similar interests. Even so, it is very isolated, so it wouldn’t work for you if you want the urban experience.</p>

<p>Purdue is one of the two main public universities in Indiana and has a technical/business emphasis. It’s a little smaller than PSU in a larger town, but still somewhat isolated (Indianapolis - an OK city - is about 80km away, while Chicago - another great city - is 200 klicks up the road). It is renowned for its engineering program, but the liberal arts, while not terrible, aren’t an emphasis. Engineers tend to study a LOT and be somewhat socially inept, but the best of the lot are considered good ‘catches’. As an Aussie, you’d be considered ‘exotic’ as soon as you opened your mouth - I expect you’d have no problem meeting guys at any of these schools!</p>

<p>Probably WAAAY too much info (and yet it’s just skimming the surface), but I didn’t know what your baseline of knowledge was. It sounds like finances will play a big role in your decision. My personal opinion is that it’s unlikely that the differences you’re talking about are as great as the differences in programs - pick the school that’s your best fit.</p>

<p>BTW, not to throw a wrench in the works, but perhaps there are other partner schools which might also work well for you (though I think you already have a great list) - if you list them, I’d be more than happy to let you know if there’s one or two others I think you should consider.</p>

<p>Penn State would give you a very stereotypical American college experience and is strong academically, but I couldn’t recommend it to an exchange student. I presume that you’re interested in learning about American culture on the whole, and Penn State is very isolated and is not a “real” place in the sense that life at University Park is centered on the university. I feel that seeing a real city would give you a better sense of what life is like in America and expose you to much more.</p>

<p>^^^^^</p>

<p>Excellent point. PSU would give you the COLLEGE experience, but UPenn or BC would also give you the AMERICAN experience.</p>

<p>Knowitsome, you were SO much help, and it definetley wasn’t too much, the more information the better! I do not mind so much not being in a city, I have been to America a few times before and have some family over there (one of the reasons I chose America to exchange to) Also I will probably travel around a bit either before or after, what I really want is a good school that is also fun.
There were other choices such as Arizona state and UCLA and Rice but I cut ones off that were in warm climates (I get enough of that here) and California and Texas don’t really appeal to me, so yeah, it was a good thought though. I am thinking Penn State sounds the best to me, your help has been so awesome though as I was leaning towards Purdue, though I think that might have had something to do with the Starbucks on campus…probably not the best reason to choose a university :slight_smile:
If anyone has anything else to add, I am more than happy to hear it.
Jenna</p>

<p>Let me tell, every major american college campus has at least TEN starbucks on campus. College students like their coffee</p>