<p>apart from MIT (Its damn difficult to get into) & Stanford (I got rejected EA)
how would you rank these schools for EE or ECE,
CMU, UMich, Cornell, Northwestern, Duke, University of Toronto (Ca), University of Waterloo (Ca), UT Austin & Rice University.</p>
<p>Also plz give reasons for your choice of ranking.</p>
<p>CMU (one of the best after MIT and stanford for EE)
Cornell (really good for engineering that is underrated)
UMich (all round great school for engineering)
Northwestern (not really known for engineering except BME but is a good school nonetheless)
Rice (good school that is often overlooked)
UT Austin (top ten for engineering)
Duke (good but only for BME)</p>
<p>Sorry I forgot to add UIUC to the list.
what about those canadian colleges??</p>
<p>UIUC should be after CMU. It is exceptionally good for EE and is #4 nationally after MIT, Stanford and Berkeley. The only thing is that it is large school which maybe a good thing or a bad thing. You can't get personal attention but you will have a lot of opportunity for internships and research. The same goes for UT -Austin. </p>
<p>I don't know about canadian universities. `</p>
<p>I used NRC and USNWR.</p>
<p>UIUC
UMich
Cornell
CMU
UT Austin
Rice
Northwestern
Duke</p>
<p>Not sure about the Canadian universities.</p>
<p>hello, given your list of schools, I think you should have applied to Caltech and Berkeley too :)</p>
<p>Caltech -> too darn difficult to get into
Berkeley -> I'm kicking myself for not applying!!</p>
<p>According to US News:
1. MIT
2. Stanford
3. Berkeley
4. UIUC
5. Michigan
9. Cornell
10. CMU
11. UT Austin
14. Northwestern
15. Rice
Duke is ranked but #22 in Engineering overall. Also, Berkeley EECS out of state is very selective, probably on par with the Ivies.</p>
<p>Dont give me the USNWR, tell me where would you go :)</p>
<p>im_blue, tell me if you rather go to Berkeley than Caltech, or UIUC than Cornell, or UT-Austin than Northwestern for EE :). Com'on we already know the big names for engineering. USNWR is a joke in this case ...</p>
<p>I was a Chicago resident, and I attended UIUC ECE over Northwestern, since I was in-state and planning to go to grad school. I would pick Berkeley over Caltech (I didn't even apply to Caltech since they don't award AP credit and thus I would have needed the full 4 years to graduate), UIUC over Cornell (mainly due to cost), and Northwestern over UT Austin (closer to Chicago and more prestigious). My personal ranking would be:
1. MIT (widely regarded as #1 in most tech fields)
2. Stanford (great location and prestige)
3. Berkeley (great location and program, but large and impersonal)
4. UIUC (close to home, cheap, and good program for grad school preparation)
5. Northwestern (close to home)
6. Michigan (good college town but expensive for out of state)
7. Cornell (good program but lousy location and expensive)
8. CMU (same as Cornell but at least it's in a city)
9. Duke (okay location but at least it has prestige outside of Engineering)
10. UT Austin (I don't like Texas)
11. Rice (same as UT Austin but more expensive)</p>
<p>I'm an EE grad student at Stanford now, and I have classmates from MIT, Stanford, Berkeley, Caltech, UIUC, Michigan, Georgia Tech, Cornell, UT Austin, UCLA, Northwestern, Penn State, Penn, UWisc, UC Davis, UMD-CP, SFSU, and SJSU, so almost everyone came from a top undergrad program.</p>
<p>"I'm an EE grad student at Stanford now, and I have classmates from MIT, Stanford, Berkeley, Caltech, UIUC, Michigan, Georgia Tech, Cornell, UT Austin, UCLA, Northwestern, Penn State, Penn, UWisc, UC Davis, UMD-CP, SFSU, and SJSU, so almost everyone came from a top undergrad program."</p>
<p>I think they are necessarily the cream students of the schools (except MIT, Caltech & Stanford) rather than from top undergrad programs (Most of the schools you mentioned don't have top undergrad programs).</p>
<p>I meant top EE programs, not undergrad programs overall. Also, there are several students from the top 5 schools (e.g. 8 from UIUC out of 210 total) and one each from the schools at the end of my list.</p>
<p>Lol and i thought i would be the only indian applying for nothwestern!!! D a m n hello * shakes fist * :)</p>
<p>Quality wise Waterloo ( where i am also applying)is right up there with all of them. Maybe a lil below Cornell MIT and Stanford.</p>
<p>BTW Berkeley is really *****y about aid to international students arent they?</p>
<p>Berkeley doesnt offer any aid to intls.</p>
<p>im_blue: Thanks for your opinions. Since I'm intl, location is no problem and nearly all of them cost the same, then which ones would you pick.</p>
<p>Also could you give some more nos abt grads at Stanford who did their ugrad elsewhere, for eg like you said UIUC = 8, what abt Cornell, UMich, CMU & UT Austin??</p>
<p>What abt intl students: are there many??</p>
<p>Without regard to cost or location, I would rank my preferences as follows:
1. MIT
2. Stanford
3. Berkeley
4. Cornell
5. Northwestern
6. Michigan
7. UIUC
8. CMU
9. Duke
10. UT Austin
11. Rice</p>
<p>This would be very similar to the US News rankings, except private schools would be higher (due to prestige outside of Engineering) and public schools would be lower.</p>
<p>Obviously, I don't know all the grad students studying at Stanford, but I do know the majority of them, since there aren't that many from the U.S. International students make up well over half of the class, which is typical of most graduate Engineering programs. I would estimate that I know about 40 of the 60 or so domestic students and more than one came from the following schools (these are rough numbers): MIT (5), Stanford (4), Berkeley (8), Caltech (2), UIUC (8), and UT Austin (3).</p>
<p>im_blue Why do you think internationals make up over half the class? Are they that much better educated than US kids, or do fewer US kids apply?</p>
<ul>
<li>International schools don't have the money to buy the sophisticated lab facilities that U.S. universities can afford, so many international students want to study in the U.S.</li>
<li>There are a lot more international students than domestic students in the world.</li>
<li>U.S. students go on to industry more.</li>
<li>International students are more geared toward math and science since elementary school.</li>
<li>The international students primarily come from a few countries, like China, India, and South Korea.</li>
</ul>
<p>"im_blue Why do you think internationals make up over half the class? Are they that much better educated than US kids, or do fewer US kids apply?"</p>
<p>Which university are you referring to ? In Caltech and MIT only about 25% (for grad schools) and 9% (for undergrad) are internationals. I believe Stanford have slightly more, but I don't think they can make up half of the class.</p>
<p>im_blue, </p>
<p>Are you now in Masters or PhD program ?</p>