<p>Have you thought about Rose-Hulman? Go to a high-level research institution for graduate school, not undergrad. Get quality teaching for your undergrad. That's just my opinion.</p>
<p>Alexandre - Don't forget that Purdue and UIUC are often ranked about the same in engineering. UIUC is not the clear #1.</p>
<p>Dr Reynolds, Carnegie Mellon, Illinois, Michigan and Purdue (in no particular order) are the top 4 schools of Engineering in the Midwest...for undergraduate, I would add RHI. I would not say RHI is better simply because there is more focus on teaching. Engineering is a research and hands on field and RHI lags the other 4 in that regard.</p>
<pre><code>Have you ever experienced an institution where teaching is the focus and not research? It's quite a difference when student learning is the focus. Wouldn't there be a better student experience when the student learning is the focus?
I have experienced both research institutions and teaching focused institutions and I can assure you that much more learning takes place when learning is the focus and not research. I can assure you that there is a much better student experience when teachers rank and promotion comes from teaching and research, not just teaching.
Research is an important elment of the university, any university. All professors should be engaged in active research and pass those things along to students. This we both agree on. But I think it would be best for undergraduate students when their learning is the focus. Some people think that great researchers will make great teachers. That's like saying great football players make great ballet dancers since it is a related activity.
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<p>RHIT teachers to research, I do research, we maintain activity in our fields. But our passion is teaching, and it makes a huge difference in the classroom. For GRADUATE STUDENTS you should go to the best research institution possible but for undergratuate study you should go somewhere where teachers are paid to teach you.</p>
<p>Yes, I have attended two schools that focus solely on teaching. Michigan and Cornell. Last time I checked, students at those universities were there to learn and their faculties were happy to oblige. I personally respect RHIT and Harvey Mudd a great deal, I would hope you would extend the same curtesy to larger, equally good research universities.</p>
<p>Michigan and Cornell focus on teaching???? Those are both big time research universities! Did you mean that?</p>
<p>I respect research universities a great deal. I tell every student looking to do graduate studies to go to one. I tell them to go to the MITs and CalTechs of the world. But for undergradute studies they will be better off going to a school that focuses on teaching. Of course they will learn anywhere, but it is better at schools like RHIT.</p>
<p>I'm very happy tht I got into so many awesome schools, :)
so far I'm in at CMU, Cornell, UIUC, Rice, Northwestern, Duke and I'm still waiting on P'ton & UMich.</p>
<p>now another aspect to consider is finance. I got into NWU & Duke with Fin aid while at the rest its gonna be full load!! So what do you guys think??</p>
<p>At CMU & Cornell it'll cost me max - 50K
At Duke and NU - 30K
At Rice, UIUC & UMich - 40K</p>
<p>That is difficult. But if you are interested in EE, I recommend Cornell and Michigan the most. However, you can save a lot of money by going to Northwestern or Duke, and they are just as reputable and good as Cornell and Michigan, and Rice is also awesome, so you really have a hard decision. </p>
<p>I recommend CMU and UIUC the least.</p>
<p>But you need to do some research. All 6 schools you are considering are AWESOME! Each has its pluses and minuses. You really cannot go wrong, even if you picked a school at random!</p>
<p>Haha I love the random "ucsd" statement right in the middle. UCSD is ranked what... like 13th according to US news. I love UCSD and everything, but I'm pretty sure that 13th ranking is due to BME.</p>
<p>Alexandre: So far I've heard only good things about CMU (except for the food there :)). Everyone I know (In the US) has said that CMU's CS and ECE rivals the best (MIT, Stanford & Berkeley). Just wanted to know why are you recommending it the least. </p>
<p>After some careful research, I've eliminated:
Rice - The Enginering program is not that great compared to other schools on my list. My priority is Academics, followed by cost.
UIUC - The school is huge, also, with financial Aid NWU is turning out to be much cheaper
Cornell - Expensive considering its size, UMich is similar and cheaper</p>
<p>so its down to,
1) Northwestern - Good Engineering, good overall school, and I got some $$$ :D
2) Duke - I havent recieved my financial aid yet, so I'll keep it on the list.
3) CMU - Pioneer in the field of Robotics, something I'm seriously interested in.
4) UMich - Awesome school, great school spirit and excellent Engineering programs.
Note: I havent been accepted to UMich yet</p>
<p>All suggestions/opinions are welcome!!! C'mon people I only have 3 more weeks to decide :eek:</p>
<p>Personally based off of education and evironment without cost being an issue here is my list:</p>
<ol>
<li>Stanford (weather and evironment + edu)</li>
<li>Berkeley (cali + great edu and big school!)</li>
<li>UIUC (I couldn't have picked a better place to study ChemE)</li>
<li>Michigan (Location mainly plus good edu)</li>
<li>MIT (obvious! but mainly edu, I don't think I'd fit in)</li>
<li>Northwestern (location mainly) </li>
<li>Cornell (I applied but evironment didn't really fit me, god edu tho)</li>
<li>USC (gradually becoming better, weather, plus they care a lot about undergrad job placement)</li>
</ol>
<p>As you can see I picked based on where I thought I'd be happy the most. I love nice weather and value a good edu the most. Also if it close to home helps me too a little.</p>
<p>Cornell and Michigan are as good in EE and CE as CMU. But overall, I think Cornell and Michigan are more well rounded. In CS, CMU is slightly better than Cornell and obviously clearly better than Michigan. So if you want CS, I would say go for Cornell. But if you want Engineering, Cornell or Michigan are equally nice.</p>
<p>Alexandre are any scholarships available for international transfers to Umich ? I am plannin to attend a state school right now but want to transfer in the future.</p>
<p>nomad: UMich provides need based and merit aid to international students after the first semester. Irrespective of when you enter the unviversity you have to complete atleast 1 semester to be eligible for scholarships and need based aid. Hope that helps.</p>
<p>Alexandre: Cornell and UMich are awesome Engineering schools, that I'm very well aware of :). One of my concerns abt Michigan is that ECE is not one major but two seperate majors. I'm hoping to major in ECE and CS in college, and I think it will be very difficult to do that at UMich. Also I'm concerned about the size of Cornell and UMich. I dont want to pay 40K and then find out that the "DARPA Challenge" team is too large to join!!</p>