<p>Do you guys know if Columbia and UPENN require that?
how about Wesleyan, Colgate, and other schools?
My counselor is extremely apathetic, and i am not a terribly strong applicant, however, i believe recommendation from her would totally ruin my chances at my target schools
thanks</p>
<p>i don't think ANY of the college requires a HS counselor reccomendation (assuming that you're a transfer applicant)</p>
<p>last year i applied to Dartmouth, and i had to submit a high school counselor's recommendation. and my counselor wasn't happy to see me, seeing it as i was the only 1 from my school who asked for a recommendation (which meant extra work for her)</p>
<p>well...i don't know about columbia but i know upenn doesn't require it
it's on their website</p>
<p>I'm a little cuious to this as well. Does anybody know if Tufts and Columbia require a guidance counselors recommendation letter?</p>
<p>ALL of the Common App schools do as far as I know. So do Yale and Brown.</p>
<p>Counselor recommendation LETTER or counselor recommendatoin FORM?
Many of the top schools require at least the form.</p>
<p>i think most do, actually.</p>
<p>I don't know of, or know why any school would require a counselor recommendation from your high school for a transfer student. That being said I did have my Secondary School report sent to every school just in case.</p>
<p>Oh, I should clarify. This is for transfer admissions. The secondary report includes two parts I believe the counselor's recommendation with how he/she checks off your strengths\weaknesses and the official secondary school transcript itself. I'm asking what schools just need the official transcript without the counselor having to write in anything?</p>
<p>Pomona doesn't need either. As far as the schools I'm familiar with (Ivies and LAC's), they all want a form filled out at the least. None want just the grades.</p>
<p>well....not really for UPENN.....check this site <a href="http://www.admissionsug.upenn.edu/forms/CompleteApp.pdf">http://www.admissionsug.upenn.edu/forms/CompleteApp.pdf</a>, and it says "Secondary School Report (Form 2A) If you are
unable to have this form completed by your high
school guidance office, an official high school transcript
alone will suffice"</p>
<p>Amherst only wants a transcript from your HS. I offer this information grudgingly, as I'm wondering why the OP can make 2000 posts, but not take the time to check the websites of schools they're interested in. Sorry, Monday morning rant.</p>
<p>In the OP's defense, it can be a little confusing to figure out what each school wants for transfer. Some are not really clear on it. The common app for transfer students seems to indicate that a h.s. counselor report is necessary, but some schools do not require this. I understand the desire to make sure it is actually necessary. My D had the only decent gc at her school, but the gc retired at the end of last year. When D wrote to ask for the gc report, she suggested to the counseling office that they use the gc recommendation paragraph from last year's common app (which is still in her file)!</p>
<p>I actually had a lot of difficulty with this as well (arguing with my HS who flat out refused to send anything but my transcript). I called a lot of the schools to which I am applying, specifically, and they all said that they will accept whatever the HS has to send. I guess the policy on the websites is basically the best-case scenario; they'll take what they can get, but they'd prefer a rec letter and a form.</p>
<p>University of Chicago requires one. Their transfer application is even worse than their regular app.</p>
<p>Just to clarify, I ran into the same position this year. I am an older transfer, and ironically my principal and guidance counselor are both deceased. Yale, Harvard, and Dartmouth all said just send the high school transcript in, and write on the form requiring a signature and recommendation from the counselor that they were no longer available for comment. I think as long as they have the transcript it's no big deal.</p>
<p>The principal and GC being deceased is one thing, saying they are "no longer available" due to a poor rating is quite another.</p>