<p>Apply to all and see. Maybe the choice will be made for you.</p>
<p>"Cornell has ivy league and statistical higher quality of fellow students, sl better than USC."</p>
<p>How do you know that Cornell has a higher quality of fellow students? Both schools accept 21 percent of their applicants. Yes, Cornell has Ivy league but that only matters if you want to work in banking or consulting in New York or Boston.</p>
<p>Curious about AEM. I presume AEM, being part of the land grant, can't share resources with Johnson. How can AEM afford to keep a complete set of business faculty just for the undergraduate business program? Are the AEM faculty as well established as Johnson's? What about facilities (e.g. trading room) and placement services?</p>
<p>ladies and gentlemen, first of all, USNWR's ranking of business programs (and enginnering programs) is totally garbage. Those of u who referenced it, I suggest you read its methodology before misinforming fellow CCers. Its ranking is entirely based on prestige. USNWR asks deans of schools which business programs they THINK is the best. Cornell AEM just got accredited 4 years ago, and so it is still developing reputation. So instead of referencing to some useless ranking based on name, use Business Week's ranking, which is based on hard core data. </p>
<p>Second of all, I can't believe some of you actually think USC and Cornell is even in the same league. Cornell's student quality is much superior to that of USC. A degree from Cornell will open a lot more doors than a degree from USC period.</p>
<p>Third, years after you graduate, you employers don't place as much emphasis on your major as the college you graduated. A Cornell degree drops their jaws.</p>
<p>Fourth, yes, Cornell probably costs a little more. But in the long run, Cornell students earn a lot more money than a graduate from USC. you can verify this at payscale and WSJ. Although Cornell AEM graduates' current salary is 3000 lower than USC graduates, keep in mind that it is developing. </p>
<p>Fifth, USC does not place a lot of its graduates into top graduate schools. I don't know what you're talking about. For example, if you look at the admission profile at HLS, (although its not HBS, its as selective) no USC graduates was admitted. On the other hand, Cornell was ranked as number 1 MBA feeder school by Business Week. USC is number 37, no way near Cornell. </p>
<p>Sixth, many USC students party a lot. If you want your daughter to have a bright future and have a good foundation, go to Cornell where she will be surrounded by hardworking classmates who interact with her on a daily basis.</p>
<p>Seventh, if she gets accepted by one of the most selectivy business program in the world (11.9% acceptance rate), she can impress the ppl on the street.</p>
<p>Eighth, many top firms recruit at Cornell. Firms such as McKinsey, Boston Consulting Group doesn't even bother going there. You can check this on their website. Google McKinsey Schools.</p>
<p>Conclusion: Out of the three schools u mentioned, Cornell is king of the hill and is much superior to USC. Ask any knowledgable person and they will tell you to go to Cornell.</p>
<p>GoBlue, AEM students take courses at Warren Hall. Its being renovated right now. They also have access to Mann Library, which has a whole section dedicated to AEM program. Google Business@Mann.</p>
<p>AEM graduates earn about $55000, plus year end bonus, sign on bonus, etc. Top firms such as Credit Suisse, GS, UBS all recruit there. This year, Monitor Group and McKinsey also hired AEM graduates.</p>
<p>AEM students are allowed to take Johnson courses. Also, some faculty who teach AEM courses are in other departments. For example, the person who teaches Marketing Research is a Johnson School Professor. So is the professor who teaches Business Law.</p>
<p>You are wrong in so many levels:</p>
<p>USC is more expensive than Cornell. Tuition and fees for 2008-2009 at Cornell are $36,504. For USC, $37,740.</p>
<p>Both schools have over 16,000 undergrads. Cornell has a STRONG greek system, so the party scene is the same as at USC.</p>
<p>A degree from Cornell open more doors? Well, it's a part of a football league that has managed to become something more. It's not USC's fault that people are so brainwashed about this whole league.</p>
<p>Three years after you graduate, nobody puts an emphasis where you went to school. It's your performance at works that matters.</p>
<p>Bottom line: If you want to live in Southern California, go to USC, there's no way a Cornell graduate will be first in line to get a job over a USC graduate there. If you want to live in Northeast, go to Cornell.</p>
<p>Rogue:</p>
<p>You must be a student, and high schooler that. </p>
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<p>They are clearly not. USC plays big time D-1 in the Pacific-Ten league, and Cornell plays D-AA in the Ivy League. </p>
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<p>Perhaps, but not of that much more value for a future marketing major.</p>
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A degree from Cornell will open a lot more doors than a degree from USC period.
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<p>On the east coast, likely, but it depends on where the student wants to live after graduation.</p>
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<p>In business, they sure do.</p>
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A Cornell degree drops their jaws.
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<p>A Cornell degree is no more jaw-dropping than any other top 20 school (outside of HYPSM). The rest is regional variation.</p>
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Fourth, yes, Cornell probably costs a little more. But in the long run, Cornell students earn a lot more money than a graduate from USC. you can verify this at payscale and WSJ.
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<p>Oh, puhleeze, take an AP Stats course before you quote jouralists. </p>
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Fifth, USC does not place a lot of its graduates into top graduate schools. I don't know what you're talking about. For example, if you look at the admission profile at HLS, (although its not HBS, its as selective) no USC graduates was admitted. On the other hand, Cornell was ranked as number 1 MBA feeder school by Business Week. USC is number 37, no way near Cornell.
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<p>Again, Stats 101: there is a lot of region variation in B-school admissions.</p>
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<p>And no one parties in Ithaca? hahahahahahahaa</p>
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<p>Wall Street, perhaps, but ppl "on the street" don't give a darn.</p>
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Conclusion: Out of the three schools u mentioned, Cornell is king of the hill and is much superior to USC.
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<p>Agreed, but since we are talking business here, the $100k question is whether it's worth that much more?</p>
<p>ok, first of all, OP is non NYS resident, which makes tuition 47000. </p>
<p>Yes, Greek scene is big at Cornell. So? Cornell students still study much harder than average Marshall students. Cornell students are alot smarter, period. Verify the stats at business week.</p>
<p>It doesn't matter its a football league or not. What matters is the job graduates get. Some firms that recruit at Cornell, doesnt even bother going to USC. Examples: BCG, McKinsey, Monitor. What does that tell you? Cornell opens doors. the end justifies the means, btp.</p>
<p>You think employers don't look at where you got ur B.S? ur very well informed.</p>
<p>Bottomline: If you want a good job, high pay and enjoy prestige, go to Cornell.</p>
<p>PS: Before you come and try to refute my statements, btp, I suggest you get your facts straight.</p>
<p>blue,</p>
<p>I have taken AP stat, as a matter of fact. And statistics tells me Cornell graduates earn more than USC graduates. I am talking about business. Cornellians simply earn more than Trojans.</p>
<p>when I say they are not in the same league, I meant quality.</p>
<p>People can get a businss job without a business degree. Examples? graduates of HYPS, Brown, Columbia, Caltech, Northwestern, etc. The quality of school matters.</p>
<p>Stats has nothing to do with what undergrad institution is rerpesented.</p>
<p>I think you're the one that is misinformed, Rogue.</p>
<p>"Some firms that recruit at Cornell, doesnt even bother going to USC. Examples: BCG."</p>
<p>What was that? Take a look at this:</p>
<p>USC</a> Career Planning and Placement Center</p>
<p>BCG recruiting at USC. You were sayin'?</p>
<p>Maybe you should get your facts straight.</p>
<p>and blue, since you play so much emphasis on AP stat, why dont u explain to fellow CCers why WSJ and PayScale who hires professional statistician are wrong.</p>
<p>ok, one firm, congratulations. i think u found the world's thinest argument.</p>
<p>It's a lot more than one firm. From Goldman Sachs to Citi. They all recruit there.</p>
<p>"People can get a businss job without a business degree. Examples? graduates of HYPS, Brown, Columbia, Caltech, Northwestern, etc. The quality of school matters."</p>
<p>Oh, yeah? How come I know two people from USC who started working at Goldman in July, both non-business majors. One was poli sci, the other international relations.</p>
<p>Stop giving me bs when you have no idea what you're talking about.</p>
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<p>I checked wikipedia for Cornell and USC.
USC - Ex-CEO of Citigroup, Charles Prince graduated from USC undergraduate and law school.
Cornell - Managing director at Golman Sachs - Abbey Cohen</p>
<p>Which is higher? CEO or Managing director. You go figure it out and let's stop all this non-sense.</p>
<p>Pac-1,000,000,000</a> | What's Bruin | Los Angeles Times</p>
<p>'"People can get a businss job without a business degree. Examples? graduates of HYPS, Brown, Columbia, Caltech, Northwestern, etc. The quality of school matters."</p>
<p>Oh, yeah? How come I know two people from USC who started working at Goldman in July, both non-business majors. One was poli sci, the other international relations." </p>
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<li>Thats exactly what I said. ppl w/o business degrees can get business jobs. U r the one who doesn't know what you are talking about.<br></li>
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<p>Columbia Student, its sad that you judge a school based on one person's achievement. not so columbia-ish. U want to compare achievements? </p>
<p>List</a> of Cornell University people - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia</p>
<p>nd btp, Goldman Sachs and Citi recruit in alot of places. They even go to CUNYs.</p>
<p>ColumbiaStudent:</p>
<p>Sanford I. Weill (Cornell B.A. 1955 Government) - Former Chairman and CEO of Citigroup</p>
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Columbia Student, its sad that you judge a school based on one person's achievement. not so columbia-ish. U want to compare achievements?
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<p>I'm not judging people based on one person's achievement. You are. You said
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<p>I looked at the ibanking group because of what you said. Ibanking is more dominant in the East Coast school and USC is on the West Coast.
USC has a lot of successful people too. That's why the list of billionaires of both schools are basically the same.</p>
<p>Besides we get sidetrack in discussing college vs answer OP's question. She is not looking for ibanking.</p>
<p>i base my posts on recruitment rather than on one person's achievements. </p>
<p>But I agree with u columbia, lets stop getting off track. </p>
<p>OP: For fashion, Cornell also offers multiple courses in Human Ecology - Textile Management</p>