<p>I got into both NYU and Berkeley and I’m having a tough time deciding. I live in Cali and Berkeley is very affordable and has great academics, but I still can’t decide. Which would you choose and why?</p>
<p>Cal's a better school than NYU and less than half the cost. The only real reason to pick NYU is if you plan to live and work in NYC after you graduate.</p>
<p>are you kidding? Cal of course</p>
<p>I would choose Cal, because I live closer and it has a slightly better reputation. NYU is a very attractive school for obvious reasons, and you should decide if you prefer that city life and if you're willing to only visit home a few times a year. That shouldn't be a big issue though. Your family could always move to New York. But academics in undergrad schools at this level are pretty much the same, so the decision should be based solely on preference.</p>
<p>If you want to live on the west coast or pretty much any area outside the NE, go with Cal. An NYU degree is hardly worth anything outside of the NE. Thats not to say that it isnt a good school, but it is a regional degree.</p>
<p>Im confused - are you saying that an NYU degree, lets say from Stern (their business school), is not recognized outside of New York or just the east coast? And why do you think that?</p>
<p>what about vice versa with that situation too? is the Cal degree as recognized and respected on the east coast? i'm from new jersey.. and i was really excited that i got in.. until a bunch of people told me they hadn't really heard of berkeley. and nyu had a better rep. i thought berkeley was up there with like mit n all that tho. i dont know...</p>
<p>Stern business school is in the top 5.. ranked 2nd for finance just below wharton. so it is recognized outside of new york. outside of the east coast... i couldn't really tell you that.</p>
<p>what would u guys pick - for going into business?
NYU Stern... or Berkeley - Haas (weighing the chance that you're still taking a risk since you have to apply again junior year)</p>
<p>NYU's alumni ties are based almost completely NYC, and you're paying twice as much money. If you really have a burning desire to work in NY then you should probably go to NYU.</p>
<p>As far as Berkeley's rep on the east coast, Berkeley is one of the most recognizable name schools in the country right behind HYPSM. I was talking to a guy who is an alumnus of Penn (undergrad) and Dartmouth (MBA); he said that although most people think that Berkeley is "too liberal" that it still has a good reputation on the east coast. He also added that anything on the West Coast is usually percieved as being very liberal by top business guys...</p>
<p>I had the same decision last year, living in California and picking between NYU and Berkeley (and UCLA was a third option), and I picked Cal. It's definitely tough, but unless your life-long ambition is to major in finance, the answer is simple.</p>
<p>Berkeley trumps NYU in just about every category. Price, campus, weather, etc. I'll grant you that NYC is more exciting than SF (I was born in the Big Apple, so there :-P), and if you reeeeally love theater than Broadway can't be beat. But outside of that, if you're not going into finance, Haas is better than Stern. Sure, you have to reapply for Haas in junior year, but it'll keep you motivated throughout your underclassman years as well as give you time to even plot out different majors (I suggest PEIS or the like) outside of Haas.</p>
<p>I'm glad I picked Cal over NYU, despite my love for New York (and my beloved Yankees). I suggest you do the same...</p>
<p>Go Bears!</p>
<p>"But outside of that, if you're not going into finance, Haas is better than Stern. Sure, you have to reapply for Haas in junior year, but it'll keep you motivated throughout your underclassman years as well as give you time to even plot out different majors (I suggest PEIS or the like) outside of Haas."</p>
<p>Interesting. By the way, Cal isn't viewed that highly on the east coast, it is probably viewed worse than NYU is out West. And no, Haas is nowhere near as good as Stern undegrad.</p>
<p>ah. so which is it?
i'm actually trying to decide between nyu stern and cal right now. =\ </p>
<p>i want to major in finance (i think). i love cal's location, campus (well still have to visit), and weather.. but its also such a big change moving across the country for college. i hate nyu's campus (or lack thereof) but its close to home (both a good & bad thing). which would you guys choose?</p>
<p>Mmm, as a resident of both the West Coast and East Coast, and as someone who heavily studied the possibilities of attending NYU-Stern or Berkeley-Haas, I would beg to differ, quakerman.</p>
<p>One should note that Haas only offers one major for undergrads: business administration. While that may sound restricting, I've found that most students don't have a specific field in mind (Mommy mommy! I want to do accounting! I don't want to do marketing!), but instead want to pick up the basics for when they go to grad school. In that case, Berkeley is a lot more practical than Stern. And while I'll grant you that everyone will have a different opinion, the overwhelming majority of people I've talked to (on both coasts) view Cal as the better school than NYU.</p>
<p>I presume that the OP is a California state resident and therefore qualifies for California state tuition. I also presume that the OP doesn't come from a financial background so modest that the cost of NYU turns out to actually be CHEAPER than Cal is, after financial aid is factored in (private schools tend to offer better aid packages to poor people than do public schools). </p>
<p>If that is true, then that makes me lean toward Cal, with one strong caveat. If you are sure you want to major in bus-ad, then going to Cal hoping to get into Haas is a rather substantial risk, when compared to guaranteed admission to Stern from the get-go. There is a substantial risk that if you choose Berkeley, you will not make it into Haas, and you will hence be forced to major in something you don't really want to major in.</p>
<p>CAL....unless you're outta state, if you were outta state, then you still should go to CAL</p>
<p>Stern is leaps and bounds ahead of Haas ug. Stern is arguably the best in the world for finance, which is the only real, theoretical business discipline. Its ug is just slightly below Wharton and gives you virtually identical employment prospects and future salary with a Bachelor of Science. Berkeley as a whole is in decline while NYU is continually rising, and I expect Stern to be top 5 universally MBA within 5 years. This is a no brainer if money is no issue-Stern has better prospects and a better education. Last, you'l be surrounded by more intelligent and dedicated individuals at Stern than at Haas (Stern has average SAT over 1400 while Cal is at a 1300, significant difference).</p>
<p>Quakerman, you're making some rather strong statements there, don't you think? For example, if you think that Stern will be a top 5 universally (sic) MBA within 5 years, then of the current top 5 (HBS, Stanford, Wharton, Kellogg, and MIT-Sloan), which one are you expecting Stern to be able to knock out of the top 5?</p>
<p>First, you should discredit usnews and focus on BW and FT, where Stern is essentially in the same league as those schools you noted. You have to think that given its location, continuing popularity, endowments, faculty, and finance rep, that will continue it's rise. Stern is focusing on being more balanced in other disciplines, and has the money and location to get it done, and the Dean has stated being top 5 as a goal for 2010, so it seems highly plausible.
As an interesting comparison, note the rise of NYU's law school (and the corresponding decline of Boalt hall in the 90s to 00s)from the 80's through the 90s as evidence of the power of the university. Just seem to be 2 universities heading into opposite directions.</p>
<p>FYI - I am a California state resident and I do qualify for in state tuition, which is at about 20k or so per year</p>
<p>Going to Stern will be the best decision of your young life.</p>
<p>Quakerman - do you go to NYU?</p>