<p>We often hear about the plight of high achieving Asian Americans being discrminated against but nothing is every said about this subject on cc. </p>
<p>I am pretty convinced white girls are being held to a higher standard than many groups. I do believe it happening more at LAC where girls generally do dominate the landscape. For the sake of gender balancing guys have an easier time getting into an LAC. That girls will stand a much better chance of admission at male dominated colleges but there is not many of them compared to the number of female dominated colleges.</p>
<p>This is a tough question. Do girls want to go to co-ed colleges with a significant female majority? I can tell you that my daughter certainly didn’t.</p>
<p>Same with my D’s friend. An ORM, extremely highly ranked in the class, waitlisted at Ivys and the likes of Rice, Duke, etc. But an LAC that typically tops the national rankings not only admitted him, but offered merit aid.</p>
<p>Considering that more girls take the SAT and more girls apply to colleges, it makes sense. They are being rated against their peers. As the mother of a boy, I did notice that he received larger aid packages at several LACs, but part of that had to do with a higher SAT score than his female classmates. In the end, though he chose an all-male LAC. At least women have many more excellent single-sex options.</p>
<p>Wouldn’t it be nice to have admit stats for each group? So we know more clearly. Stats broken down along, geography, race and gender, socio-eco background, and others they look first in admission will go a long way helping applicants in choosing where to apply.</p>
<p>It might be, Igloo, or it might just be like people running back and forth across the deck of sinking liner, everyone running to the spot where there were fewer of them the year before. :eek:</p>
<p>Yes, Iglooo, that would be great. I doubt it will ever happen, but it would be nice. However, most will say that they look beyond the stats (which most LACs do), so it may not help.</p>
<p>poetgirl - They could post stats every year for the past five years. People will see the fluctuation and decide for themselves. It’s only fair that is known to applicants. Being rejected with 10% admit rate feels different from being rejected when in truth the rate 3%. If indeed that’s the case.</p>
<p>MizzBee - I meant not only test scores/GPAs. Also admit rates, for example, x% white girls from NY were admitted with SAT xxx GPA yyy type stats. We get that it’s holistic. It’s not to compare who got in and who didn’t. It’s so you know roughly what your chances are and help you decide to apply or not.</p>
<p>I fear that poetgrl’s running on the deck analogy might be all too apt. Seems to me that the internet has broken down barriers to information access so that it has become more difficult to get and exploit insider knowledge. The 'net and the Common App have clearly led to soaring applications to highly selective colleges, for example, as everyone knows. It seems to me that this is a problem in scholarship applications, too. The conventional wisdom seems to be that college-bound students should make a big effort to apply for scholarships - there’s lots of money out there! Well, there is lots of money out there, I suppose, but also lots and lots of applicants.</p>
<p>I prompted my D to look into scholarships, and she did, but ended up pretty much giving up on them. D is a typical middle-class white well-rounded excellent student. She’s done a modest, ordinary amount of civic engagement kinds of activities. Not nothing, but nothing specially impressive. Our local school and community scholarships are all about civic engagement and service. We couldn’t really countenance her writing essays attempting to frame her modest contributions as outstanding and award-worthy. National scholarships looked like more of the same - and likely with tens of thousands of applicants.</p>
<p>It depends on the college. Girls have the leg up at some schools where they are more the minority. Tech school,especially. A girl with high tech type stats has a better chance at those type of scholarships. Take a look at the CMU site and you can see what I mean as an example. So it all a matter of where you look.</p>
<p>If you are an North East Catholic school kid, you are going to be at a disadvantage of sorts for awards and admissions at BC over someone from the South or Midwest or other areas. BC gets enough qualified kids in that category to fill their class several times over. If you are from PA, there is a “special” stack for your application to CMU. A lot of these universities want geographic diversity, so your locale can put you at a disadvantage. </p>
<p>So yes, anytime you apply to a school, where you are a dime a dozen and surplus, you run into this problem. Schools that find themselves going into the 70% range of one sex over the other, have interest, applications, enrollment and yield drops. So they respond in kind. It’s been the case for a while when schools went coed, there was a push for the minority sex. This is in many school scenarios, not just at college. My sons were really at a disadvantage when they applied to an independent school that was still trying to even out the male/female ratio after going coed from being all male. They were accepting nearly any female, but only a quarter of the males once they went through the all the female applicants. It was not fair, but that is the way it works.</p>
<p>I read it was 114-100 males to females, but that it is trending down annually. This was a few years ago though. Since young men tend to die more than young women it seems it would be more balanced as time goes by.</p>