<p>Omg....its so bad.
They are always dealing with the seniors and their colleges or dealing with incoming freshman.</p>
<p>When you suggest something like self-studying APs to them, they're like "***?"</p>
<p>When you suggest something like distance learning courses for credit, they're like "***?"</p>
<p><em>shakes head</em></p>
<p>This is getting to be a huge pain.</p>
<p>at my school they divide the class up and give a group to each counselor, then the counselor is with that group only for all 4 years. we have about 7 or 8 hundred students and 4 or 5 counselors per year. my counselor is pretty nice, but through no fault of her own doesnt have very much experience with art schools</p>
<p>lol 2000 students for our school. 4-5 counselors.</p>
<p>Dude a counselors job is harder then like 5 teachers jobs put together. Give them a break. In my school there are 7 counselors and they have to deal with 2400 kids.</p>
<p>yea. thats why we need more counselors. the schools don't see the importance of them.</p>
<p>My school has 900-1000 kids and 3 counselors. They're all very nice and do a good job.</p>
<p>Ya, I had to switch councelors because mine is horrible. I see the freshman one. Because few incoming freshman care about their classes I get in fairly quickly. I've learned that if I sign up before school on a B day I'll be in about 10-20 minutes before lunch. </p>
<p>I have a system. If I can't wait that long I email him the night before so I get a response by 7:30 the next morning.</p>
<p>Public school counselors can be excellent at dealing with 'normal' situations, but give them an abnormal circumstance, and they have no idea how to deal with it. When I was in 10th grade, I kept telling my counselor that I wanted to take calculus and that in fact, I already knew Calculus, but I just needed the class for review. He wouldn't budge, and persisted that I was too young to take it and that calculus was reserved for seniors. I transferred to a more specialized school the year after.</p>
<p>lol yea. im like
"yea, i plan on just skipping bio and doin AP chem/physics next year"</p>
<p>":O, no one in our history has ever done that."</p>
<p>me: "lol -_-"</p>
<p>THe councelor I transfered from lies to students on a regular basis, as does the majority. I'm almost certain my current one does, just not to the same level.</p>
<p>well my counselors are generally helpful.</p>
<p>but they just don't get exposed/have time to deal with all the stuff that is pretty much standard on CC.</p>
<p>^ That's a big problem too here. </p>
<p>Most of the ones at my school don't want to help with the average CC problems. They don't understand kids who actually want to succeed.</p>
<p>^ Exactly. All the counselors are very nice at my school, but they don't understand students like me. For example, if I told my counselor that I was going to self study a few AP's or maybe skip a class because of self study, he'd be like "huh?" </p>
<p>They just don't fully understand academically motivated students.</p>
<p>Well, I guess I have a better situation than most because I feel like my counselor was actually helpful when I wanted to take a course over the summer then skip a year of Spanish. My school is pretty good so maybe it's just because there are more students that actually do skip courses and such. My school is about 800 kids and we have 4 counselors, but they just added an extra this year that has the entire freshman class. So they would have the freshman counselor for 1 year and their regular counselor for the next 3 years.</p>
<p>My school has like 3600 kids and 9-10 counselors I believe. Win?</p>
<p>Mine has around 1,800 students and four councelors.</p>
<p>This thread really makes me appreciate my counselor a lot. My school is ~500 students (7-12) and we have two consolers who alternate years so each class has the same one the whole way through. He has been very helpful to me. I've never had a huge request but he has a) let me skip a social studies class by testing out over the summer (World cultures, I think the fact that I have a huge rep. about knowing current events helped) b) let me take three APs this year, including AP Calc and AP Bio at the same time (which is highly discouraged because that combination is known to be a killer of GPAs here, hasn't hit me yet) which is unheard of for juniors at my school c) let me take English comp and Speech outside of class pass/fail to accomadate more science and d) helped me out w/ gov. school aps. So he's the man.</p>
<p>At my school we get a different counselor every two years, so I don't have to deal with freshers. My counselor's fine but she has this assistant/secretary who never lets me talk to her.</p>
<p>Mine is a complete idiot; </p>
<p>First time I set up an appointment with her, she told me right off the bat that I should apply to an Ivy League school and that I would 100% get in.</p>
<p>Luckily, I am not that stupid and know that a 3.5 GPA + 1700 SAT scores don't get you into Ivy Leagues. :) My ability to know my limits saved me $300+ on college app fees.</p>
<p>I never set up another appointment with her.</p>
<p>What the hell? So you didn't apply whatsoever?</p>