Who said the Pac-10 is a weak conference?

Colleges and Universities A-Z University of California - Berkeley
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which leaves almost 20 amazing combinations.....

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<p>Haha, yes, but the components that make up those combinations are arguably the ugliest threads ever to be worn on a gridiron.</p>

<p>I'm sure you Oregon fans get a kick out of Oregon State's new duds...I read the jerseys looked like "man bras"...LOL</p>

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you could add the script logo to that list as well.

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I have the logo listed first...;)</p>

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<p>And surprisingly enough we made 'em all better, too..</p>

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<p>^ Yeah, you guys "glammed" it up with LA pretentiousness.</p>

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<p>is this like a gay version of sports center or something? are you guys really arguing fashion?
....wow</p>

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<p>mega, that's like a company copying the iPod and claiming that they should be considered Gods for making it in a different color, even though they didn't come up with the design, idea, playlist, name, etc. UCLA: original tweakers</p>

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<p>LA pretentiousness? Original tweakers? Lol wow, I didn't know anyone could get so fired up about some "trademarks"(for lack of a better word). </p>

<p>Don't get angry at me, I'm not the one who improved on all of them.</p>

<p>[EDIT]Lol, and no one's proclaiming us GODS for anything, haha..</p>

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<p>24 hours...................</p>

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<p>UCBChemGrad:</p>

<p>Think about all of the UC campuses and their school colors.... And, then reflect on the State's official colors. hmmmmmm</p>

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<p>Let's turn our attention to college basketball. The AP preseason ranking just came out, and Cal unfortunately (but not surprisingly) got no votes. </p>

<p><a href="http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/basketball/ncaa/men/polls/%5B/url%5D"&gt;http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/basketball/ncaa/men/polls/&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p>

<p>Although this might be controversial, I think Ben Braun should probably be fired. He's a nice guy, but the truth of the matter is that the Cal basketball team has been mediocre under Braun's leadership. I don't expect Cal to be as good at basketball as strong as Pac-10 powerhouses UCLA or Arizona, but I still think Cal should be doing better than it has. Cal has qualified for the NCAA tournament only about half of the seasons that Braun has coached the team , in other years only making it to the NIT or, even worse, like last season, not even making the NIT. {Which is pretty embarrassing as even teams like Fresno State got at-large bids to the NIT last season.} </p>

<p>Furthermore, it's not as if the Cal men's basketball team has been performing poorly on the court because Braun has emphasized academics. The published NCAA graduation rate of Cal men's basketball team is downright terrible. It's even worse than the football graduation rate. In regards to the published football rate, I don't really blame Tedford because the published data has to do with players who came in before Tedford's time (i.e.had been brought in under former coach Tom Holmoe). Tedford has been around since only 2002, so I mostly blame Holmoe for the football numbers But Braun has been there since 1996, so he has no excuse. These are all his players. </p>

<p><a href="http://web1.ncaa.org/app_data/inst2007/107.pdf%5B/url%5D"&gt;http://web1.ncaa.org/app_data/inst2007/107.pdf&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p>

<p>Note, for those of you who are thinking that maybe that graduation rate was affected by Cal players leaving early for the NBA, please note the following NCAA definition of graduation success rate (GSR). It specifically includes those students who left but who would have remained academically eligible to play, hence specifically counting those players who were still in good standing when they left early for the NBA. Nevertheless, even under that GSR definition, the Cal men's basketball team has had only a 33% graduation success rate. </p>

<p><a href="http://www2.ncaa.org/portal/academics_and_athletes/education_and_research/academic_reform/grad_rate/2007/d1_info.pdf%5B/url%5D"&gt;http://www2.ncaa.org/portal/academics_and_athletes/education_and_research/academic_reform/grad_rate/2007/d1_info.pdf&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p>

<p>In contrast, a powerhouse like North Carolina can boast a 86% GSR. Even UCLA, which is a quasi-renegade program, still has a 40% GSR.</p>

<p><a href="http://web1.ncaa.org/app_data/inst2007/457.pdf%5B/url%5D"&gt;http://web1.ncaa.org/app_data/inst2007/457.pdf&lt;/a>
<a href="http://web1.ncaa.org/app_data/inst2007/110.pdf%5B/url%5D"&gt;http://web1.ncaa.org/app_data/inst2007/110.pdf&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p>

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<p>I think this year's team is capable of making some noise. DeVon Hardin will be back. I think he's a preseason top 5 center according to Rivals.com, but mostly I'm looking forward to seeing Ryan Anderson play. Anderson is a beast, you know how good he is if you've watched his last year.</p>

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<p>sakky, i agree about braun. they have solid talent every year, but can't do much with it.</p>

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<p>PAc-10 is definitely not a weak conference when it comes to B-ball...we have 6 teams (more than any other conference) in the top 25....</p>

<p>O yea, and I'm about to leave for Eugene for the duck Game soon...wasn't able to make it earlier :(</p>

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<p>well, have fun! i'm rootin for ya!</p>

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I think this year's team is capable of making some noise. DeVon Hardin will be back. I think he's a preseason top 5 center according to Rivals.com, but mostly I'm looking forward to seeing Ryan Anderson play. Anderson is a beast, you know how good he is if you've watched his last year.

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<p>BlueElmo, I hope you're right. But, given the history of the coaching, I am not exactly optimistic. Cal basketball has had a painful history of taking prime talent and squandering it. </p>

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PAc-10 is definitely not a weak conference when it comes to B-ball...we have 6 teams (more than any other conference) in the top 25....

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<p>I agree that the Pac-10 is probably the strongest basketball conference in the country. </p>

<p>But that doesn't exactly do Cal any favors. Cal is projected to finish no higher than 8th in the conference. And the truth is, finishing 8th isn't going to help Cal get into March Madness.</p>

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<p>Instead of stuffing all the sports related talk into a thread that has a peculiar name, why not make an "Official Pac-10 Basketball Thread."</p>

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<p>haha, that's fine, but b-ball gives us something to talk about during the middle of the week, while taking a break from the "Cal's short-lived dynasty is over" stuff. i like our little group on this thread, anyway...</p>

<p>meanwhile, oregon is doing fabulous (yess!!)</p>

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<p>Yep, let's talk basketball! My favorite college sport :p..</p>

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<p>If we play like that next wk vs SC, we're gonna be in for a whoopin. Tedford should really give Reilly a chance if Longshore is limping again.</p>

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Yep, let's talk basketball! My favorite college sport ..

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<p>Ugh...I hate basketball.</p>

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If we play like that next wk vs SC, we're gonna be in for a whoopin. Tedford should really give Reilly a chance if Longshore is limping again.

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<p>Totally agree. Tedford's play calling is uninspiring though. How many times do we try to run it for a TD when we're inside the 5?!...only to be stuffed!</p>

<p>Riley engineered two quick, impressive drives during the OSU game (all forgotten 'cause of the mental lapse) and has much more mobility than Longshore...I think he'd wake up the offense.</p>